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Basecamp: Episode Twenty

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Basecamp: Episode Twenty by Hielko

Hielko returns to do a hand history review session of some small-mid stakes play at 6 max NLHE.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 62 minutes long
  • Posted over 2 years ago

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DiggerTheDog

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DiggerTheDog

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20 min mark is specifically on 4bet small or shove.

Posted over 2 years ago

zenben

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Time Link to 00:46:36

If you have the read that this player can get real spewy, what do you think of donking or ch/R the flop with TPQK? You run into a set every once in a while, but since you underrepped your hand pre, he might remove many strong hands from your range and put you on a lot of air.

You could also do something real crazy like minbet donk the turn-this always gets raised by monkeys!

Really though, checking this turn cannot be horrible. The majority of his air range is either giving up regardless of your move or continuing to bet, while his made hands are WAWB and aren't putting any more money in the pot on the turn. There's also the chance he gets suspicious on the river if the turn goes ch/ch, so you could overbet and hope to get called by worse.

Edit:with his high aggressive river sats, you could even consider checking the turn AND the river and get him to thin vbet or bet/ch/bet with air. This is much more likely to get called than when you donk the turn and ch/R the river.

Posted over 2 years ago

zenben

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Hielko's way of explaining things and his technical knowledge is very impressive throughout this vid.



+1 really great job

(and I had no prob understanding any of it, so no worries!)

Posted over 2 years ago

Prologion

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Time Link to 00:38:06

Definitly agree that folding vs. a rivershove on a blank is just the best decision on average, I would strongly guess.

I mean,
you definitly have flushes in your range (also exspecially bigger ones) and the average Villain should/will not continue bluffing here most of the time + after B/Call flop - large lead on the turn, he has of course many flushes in his range himself.

tbh,
when it came to the turndecision, I paused the vid and rly predicted that I would fold b/c it looks so strong and "flushy" (B/Call Flop - bomb 3rd-Colour-Turn).
But ok,
as you said,
QT is maybe possible for him (for your reasons) and his gap between VPIP/PFR is a little bit fishy...
So probably a turnfold would be too weak here - but vs. a nitty player, I would even find probably a turnfold vs. this line, in this spot.

Posted over 2 years ago

Hielko

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If you have the read that this player can get real spewy, what do you think of donking or ch/R the flop with TPQK? You run into a set every once in a while, but since you underrepped your hand pre, he might remove many strong hands from your range and put you on a lot of air.


Think you really need a good read to do something like that, esp on this board where he could have top2pair and you also rep top2pair yourself so he should give a raise a little bit more credit than say on A72r. Playing it passive is also good for your whole range when playing an aggro villain because it protects your weaker hands from getting bluffed.

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zenben

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Think you really need a good read to do something like that, esp on this board where he could have top2pair and you also rep top2pair yourself so he should give a raise a little bit more credit than say on A72r. Playing it passive is also good for your whole range when playing an aggro villain because it protects your weaker hands from getting bluffed.



That makes sense. How do you feel about the pre flop decision to flat?

Posted over 2 years ago

Hielko

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That makes sense. How do you feel about the pre flop decision to flat?


Think it's fine, but close; 3-betting is also very reasonable.

Posted over 2 years ago

Prologion

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Time Link to 00:57:54

Is it maybe a good idea as a default to play back vs. squeezes in general by 4betJamming a wide range, when the opponnent is squeezing a lot but, also folding less to 4bet and is capable of light 5betJams (for example: It is not bad, when we 4betjam 33 and Villain is then forced to fold ATs/AJ..)

And in contrast to this, owning wide squeezers with a foldto4bet_stat of for instance, let`s say 65%+, by small 4betting?
Reason:
Here it is probably valueable to have a bluff4bet-range.

Posted over 2 years ago

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Where are you from dzejkej? Nice video guys

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dzejkej

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Where are you from dzejkej? Nice video guys



Slovakia, Europe Smile

Posted over 2 years ago

Kippers12

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(minute 30:50) the 56s hand:
Thats an interesting question if AJ here is really stronger than AA. I agree with the blockers, but not with the outs: With Aces he has at least six outs for pairing the board.

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Hielko

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(minute 30:50) the 56s hand:
Thats an interesting question if AJ here is really stronger than AA. I agree with the blockers, but not with the outs: With Aces he has at least six outs for pairing the board.


Yeah, with aces you will indeed have more outs on average vs 2 pair. You will have 3 outs on the flop and 6 outs on a blank turn. With AJ you will have between 3 and 5 outs on the flop, and between 3 and 8 on a blank turn.

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Time Link to 00:31:08

I'm with you as far as the blockers go, but how much does that matter? It seems to me that AA has basically the same amount of outs against two-pair given counterfeiting turns, and more outs going into most rivers. And while it sounds pretty iffy/marginal to me from a frequency standpoint, as I am saying it, is there not something to be said for the increased likelihood that an opponent could be raising a dominated pair hand here when we have AA? Plus, versus sets we have two more outs than we have with AJ, which may mean something over large samples.

I feel like I'm splitting hairs by arguing with you that they're basically the same hand, rather than one being stronger, especially since they're both likely to be played in the same manner, but where am I going wrong?

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Hielko

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yeah, I agree. The difference is going to be smaller than I realized when making the video, sometimes it is going to be relevant though (depening on what two pair hands villain could hit on a certain board texture, how light he can raise for value etc).

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