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Villain is 34/28/2.8, 230 hands. 3bet vs utg 8% (3/24). He is 5/10 - 10/20 reg trying to run everyone over is basically my read.

I have just sat down and won a semilarge pot without showdown by raising a drawy flop IP and barreling the turn. Other than that he should not know anything about me.

SB ($618)
BB ($600)
Hero ($715)
CO ($591)
BTN ($1,341)

Dealt to Hero T T

Hero raises to $21,fold, BTN raises to $60, fold, fold, Hero calls $39

FLOP ($129) 7 8 T

Hero checks, BTN bets $90, Hero ?

If the board was dryer I would probably always call but with the risk of several action killers I could CR the turn to build the pot.

CR or ch/c?

I'm not super worried about this flop hitting his range. I also think he cb here thinking this flop didn't hit your range and can get you to fold overs or weak pp you didn't 4b. I think he either has complete garbage, over cards, or pp. I think you will get more value regardless of c/c or cr from over pair, but if you cr probably fold out his complete bluffs and over cards. I think I check/call here disguising my hand strength, keeping his bluffs for value, and still getting value from over pairs. Also not folding or making obv moves to scare cards on latter streets.

I'm not super worried about this flop hitting his range. I also think he cb here thinking this flop didn't hit your range and can get you to fold overs or weak pp you didn't 4b. I think he either has complete garbage, over cards, or pp. I think you will get more value regardless of c/c or cr from over pair, but if you cr probably fold out his complete bluffs and over cards. I think I check/call here disguising my hand strength, keeping his bluffs for value, and still getting value from over pairs. Also not folding or making obv moves to scare cards on latter streets.

I think this flop smacks my utg calling OOP range pretty hard.

But agree with the other.

Maybe I put to much concern in not stacking overpairs bc of actionkilling turns/rivers

I think this flop smacks my utg calling OOP range pretty hard.

Yeah on second thought, your right it does.

you guys call 3bet with SC OOP or with mid pp? How does this flop smack your UTG OOP calling range? But since this flop is so coordinated you can rep alot of draws and some turn cards might kill your action. I would just jam now.

Just str8 up ch/jam here?

Yes, My OOP calling range here is probably like 88-TT(JJ), AQ,KQs, maybe some SC and slowplays

you guys call 3bet with SC OOP or with mid pp? How does this flop smack your UTG OOP calling range? But since this flop is so coordinated you can rep alot of draws and some turn cards might kill your action. I would just jam now.

I don't typically, but thought maybe op does, most notably mid pps set mining.

I don't typically, but thought maybe op does, most notably mid pps set mining.

You cant setmine here OOP alone.

NL600+ plays so aggressively you can call for showdown value with 88+. People are just not limited to premium hands when they 3bet preflop vs utg.

You cant setmine here OOP alone.

NL600+ plays so aggressively you can call for showdown value with 88+. People are just not limited to premium hands when they 3bet preflop vs utg.

well of course I wouldnt call strictly to set mine and play fit/fold.

I think you might be surprised that people aren't limited to 3bettimg utg opens with premiums even at the 200nl level.

I would either donk the flop or c/jam, If I donk I would bet big enough on the flop to jam the turn.

I think calling OOP with mid pairs is -EV vs aggro villans that can value bet thinly.

Closing the action on a board that hits our range makes it difficult to get paid off by anything but JJ+, even QQ is behind TT-88. Is villain aggressive enough to ship over a min-check raise with air?

I would either donk the flop or c/jam, If I donk I would bet big enough on the flop to jam the turn.

I think calling OOP with mid pairs is -EV vs aggro villans that can value bet thinly.

Not so sure about this. If you have a reasonable grasp of their air hands, then I think it is ok

Closing the action on a board that hits our range makes it difficult to get paid off by anything but JJ+, even QQ is behind TT-88. Is villain aggressive enough to ship over a min-check raise with air?

Shipping this board with air is terrible

Would a call lead the turn line work if u are not going to check raise?

Shipping this board with air is terrible

Of course it's terrible, but check/raising AI can't induce the villain to make a mistake with the bottom of his range where check/raising Min can, if you close the action you let him play perfectly with the bottom of his range.