AndreasA
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Can't both parties record the audio seperately and then synchronize the files later? Been wondering that for a long time. Of course the risk of ruin increases a fair bit but it would help out the quality immensely.
Yeah this has to be the safest alternative. You have a skype convo as usual but both parties make a recording of the audio in another program. I'm sure there are some nice freeware programs out there for this. Then you can adjust levels and maybe add a little compressor as well. It would do wonders.
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stinkpaw
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Lots of excellent discussion. The audio isn't too bad, you can hear Vanessa quite clearly. A lot of stinkpaw's audio is out of sync, but it's not that important to hear the reasoning behind his misplayed hands. The video is definitely watchable and worth watching.
If you cant hear me how are you going to learn how to burn money?

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Entity
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this was exactly what I was going to suggest. The sound quality is much better in ventrilo than in skype.
also it seems to me that the problem might be in post processing. I don't know the specifics but when you render a long video the sound might start to skip ahead after a while. (like in every coaching tree / ducksoup video I've watched lately
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Many people have suggested ventrilio but I've yet to find a client for it that doesn't require a fairly tech-savvy user to use (I have troubles with most of the clients I've used, and I'm more tech-savvy than most). The default UX is something that requires too much investment for people to understand and use easily.
Beyond that, I've had difficulty finding ways to convert the VRF files into a format that can be easily synced with the Camtasia recordings.
The short answer is that the solution we have right now (Skype+Pamela) works great in the majority of situations and is easy for our EPs and coaches to use, but unfortunately bugs out occasionally. Ventrilio has better sound quality but is something that is difficult to use compared to Skype/other programs.
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mogwai316
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Many people have suggested ventrilio but I've yet to find a client for it that doesn't require a fairly tech-savvy user to use (I have troubles with most of the clients I've used, and I'm more tech-savvy than most). The default UX is something that requires too much investment for people to understand and use easily.
Beyond that, I've had difficulty finding ways to convert the VRF files into a format that can be easily synced with the Camtasia recordings.
For a group coaching I was part of, we did audio on Ventrilo and video on GotoMeeting, and I was able to record both and sync them easily with Camtasia. For Ventrilo, I just had it record the VTF and then you can export that to .wav. I converted the .wav to .mp3 with lame (because I wanted to be able to listen to just the audio; you could probably skip this step and import the .wav directly to Camtasia) and loaded that into Camtasia with the video and lined them up. One of the sessions was almost 4 hours long, so certainly longer than any DC video would be, and I didn't have any trouble with it other than it taking forever to render on my old-ass computer. I'm by no means an expert, I only know the very basics of Camtasia, but I don't see why this wouldn't work. As far as Vent being hard to use, all you gotta do to record is Right-click->View->Record/Playback and put in a filename (that is with the default client; I didn't even know there were other clients until I read your post).
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For a group coaching I was part of, we did audio on Ventrilo and video on GotoMeeting, and I was able to record both and sync them easily with Camtasia. For Ventrilo, I just had it record the VTF and then you can export that to .wav. I converted the .wav to .mp3 with lame (because I wanted to be able to listen to just the audio; you could probably skip this step and import the .wav directly to Camtasia) and loaded that into Camtasia with the video and lined them up. One of the sessions was almost 4 hours long, so certainly longer than any DC video would be, and I didn't have any trouble with it other than it taking forever to render on my old-ass computer. I'm by no means an expert, I only know the very basics of Camtasia, but I don't see why this wouldn't work. As far as Vent being hard to use, all you gotta do to record is Right-click->View->Record/Playback and put in a filename (that is with the default client; I didn't even know there were other clients until I read your post).
I'll try this out, I've had major issues getting it to work and not be a huge pain in the ass. I've found that most people with a gamer background are really good with it, but not so much outside that.
What application did you use to convert VRF to WAV?
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mogwai316
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JammyJenny
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stinkpaw
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unwatchable. please sort it out, some interesting spots
If there is a particular spot/hand that you are interested in but cant take the audio let me know and I will post what the discussion was based on my notes etc...
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stinkpaw
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We've used GoToMeeting successfully at my company for recording audio and video of on-line presentations etc... You can record audio from a built in VOIP or from a 'free' conference line (you have to pay toll charges.)
GoToMeeting isn't free but its cheap and easy and probably well worth the $$ to get a few accounts for DC. Just a thought...
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Phatty
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I'm confused. If he plays perfectly and always folds when he's behind and calls when he's ahead, we never make money ... right? Plus we're risking 259 to win 164 with basically just two outs to save us if we're behind seems a little reckless unless we have a specific read that we're behind and he'll fold. Even then, I would think we can probably risk a lot less to accomplish the same thing.
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RainFall
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