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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by Grindcore (Mid Stakes)

Very good and entertaining video!

You obviously put a ton of stock in your reads in these spots against bad players. How do you determine when these reads can be considered solid enough to apply them comfortably?

Do you sit back a while and get some confirmation for the reads before you trust them with your stack or do you stick your head in from the start and adjust as you go along? I feel a bit uncomfortable with this sometimes. Kinda the same thing as avoiding coinflips when your egde is huge if you suspect the fish might leave after a double up.

I would really appretiate if you could elaborate a bit on this.

thanks!

Same line, only now I'll sometimes get called instead of jammed on when he paired. For every straight hitting, there are several missing too, so if he has the nuts, good for him.

again super thoughts.^^

one question:
What if the river would have been a 6,8, 3,4, 9?

Would you have stilled C/Called tie river?
The poblem is obv. that on thiscards many random draws from his possible Flopraisingrange would come in.

Very good and entertaining video!

You obviously put a ton of stock in your reads in these spots against bad players. How do you determine when these reads can be considered solid enough to apply them comfortably?

Do you sit back a while and get some confirmation for the reads before you trust them with your stack or do you stick your head in from the start and adjust as you go along? I feel a bit uncomfortable with this sometimes. Kinda the same thing as avoiding coinflips when your egde is huge if you suspect the fish might leave after a double up.

I would really appretiate if you could elaborate a bit on this.

thanks!

People don't suddenly change the way they play. Especially not fish. Some are just clicking buttons and do random stuff, but then that's the way they play: they click buttons. They won't suddenly make some thoughtful play intentionally, but they might do it by accident. If you've seen a player do a certain thing, chances are good he'd do it again, so you can go with reads pretty fast. Watch my live videos to see read building in action.

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I have a dumb question: What are the odds that a combo of 2,3,4,5 happens if we get to see all 5 streets?

i like ur vid, i always made dumb calldowns, and still do, but at least they work more often now

I have a dumb question: What are the odds that a combo of 2,3,4,5 happens if we get to see all 5 streets?

This should be pretty easy to calculate but I never payed attention during math class in high school so I forgot how to precisely do it. Intuitively I'd say this, but it could easily be wrong:

16/52*12/51*8/50*4/49*5, with the 5 in the end being the 5 possible spots for the last card to be (the board pairing doesn't matter since you still stack Ax with 6x, which I suppose is the thing you're interested in). That results in ~0.5%, or 1 in 200 boards.

lol thanks. add that .5 percent to my set mining 6's

One of the best DC videos. Your ability to convey your complex Thought processes is brilliant.
Please more videos

I know I will watch this series again and again and again. I hope you will do more in the near future.
Now for a question that I don't know how to ask. I play 25NL and have only 30k hands at the table. Okay, so now for the question...you started basically from scratch. Can you somehow outline or give a synopsis of how you developed your skills?
I've read quite a few books and watched many of the SSNl vids on DeucesCracked. My common sense and trying to apply what I've learned has me jutt shy of breaking even. But, when I am at a table, I do not think anything even remotely like you do.
For example, as you commentate, I listen to your reads and wonder how do you know that? How did you first develop your assumptions so that you are applying them to this particular situation? I know you talked about standard play and deviating from it in one of the other videos, but, when I am analyzing a hand, I make assumptions based upon what I think (not knowing whether my thinking is right or wrong) and am quite offbase much of the time about what I think the villain has for a range and what he does with it. As you explain your thought process for the hands, it seems so clear and you are so confident. How do I go about teaching myself the thought process to get - eventually through a lot of work - where you are? What was the path you took to developing how you think about the game? If that makes any sense. Thank you for any wisdom you share.

This can't be real, right?

Very nice video and very good series. Hope to see much more from you in future series.

In the J3s hand when he raised the 572r, what would you do if the turn was a 6 ? Still lead + shove?

Just curious since I had a very similar spot today (NL500):

Hero ($562)
BB ($443)
CO ($138)
BTN ($671)

Dealt to Hero J K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $15

FLOP ($40) 3 7 9

Hero bets $30, BB raises to $75, Hero calls $45

TURN ($190) 3 7 9 6

Hero ?

Very nice video and very good series. Hope to see much more from you in future series.

In the J3s hand when he raised the 572r, what would you do if the turn was a 6 ? Still lead + shove?

Just curious since I had a very similar spot today (NL500):

Hero ($562)
BB ($443)
CO ($138)
BTN ($671)

Dealt to Hero J K

fold, fold, Hero raises to $20, BB calls $15

FLOP ($40) 3 7 9

Hero bets $30, BB raises to $75, Hero calls $45

TURN ($190) 3 7 9 6

Hero ?

The 6 very likely gives him showdown value or a straight. He'll never check a straight. You can consider checking turn and overbetshoving river when he checks back, and just c/f turn when he bets. But you have to be really sure that he is bluffing the flop in the first place to not make a play like that.


Someone asked before what I'd do on some rivers and I said I'd take the same line, but on a 6 I'd actually c/f as now all semibluffs have SD value or a straight. A 3 for example would only complete 46 but miss 68 89 so I'd still be ahead when he shoves.

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion as you did that he probably got some kind of SD value on the turn. Nice point with your own hand on a river 3 or 6.

TURN ($190) 3 7 9 6

Hero checks, BB checks

RIVER ($190) 3 7 9 6 7

Hero checks, BB bets $348 (AI), Hero ?

Overbetbluffing river is interesting but would you do it on this river?

I do realise the need for reads, but I think I have got a similar opponent in this hand like yours, regarding slowplaying monsters on flops and also checking back SD value

I hope this hand is not too bothersome for you, sorry for taking your time, but I just thought you might find it interesting.

In the last hand can villain ever have Ahigh ?

Yeah, I came to the same conclusion as you did that he probably got some kind of SD value on the turn. Nice point with your own hand on a river 3 or 6.

TURN ($190) 3 7 9 6

Hero checks, BB checks

RIVER ($190) 3 7 9 6 7

Hero checks, BB bets $348 (AI), Hero ?

Overbetbluffing river is interesting but would you do it on this river?

I do realise the need for reads, but I think I have got a similar opponent in this hand like yours, regarding slowplaying monsters on flops and also checking back SD value

I hope this hand is not too bothersome for you, sorry for taking your time, but I just thought you might find it interesting.

Yeah he never raises 7x on the flop and keeps betting 67/sets/straights on the turn, so I'd bet to fold out a 6. $140 is probably enough though, don't have to openshove.

As played, his shove is really strange. He doesn't raise 7x on the flop and doesn't check a valuehand on the turn. He'd also expect you to lead the river if you had 7x or a straight/set/overpair/whatever probably, so when you check he thinks you have a bluffcatcher. The jam then very often is a bluff, but what hands can he be bluffing with? All his semibluffs improved on the turn except JT. Most people don't bluffraise A high on the flop but just call instead, so KJ likely beats his bluffs, but the problem is that there are so few bluffing combos in his range. I guess he could also have raised random overs w hearts on the flop and then checked the turn fearing a CRAI... Very close. I'd rather call AK or 9x here than KJ though, just in case he is bluffing with the best hand (like 6x to bluff you off 9x or overpair). Wether you should call KJ here or not also depends on your image/history with villain. But leading river is far superior to anything here.