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Mentor: Sthief09 (#2) - TecmoSuperBowl 4-tabling Review

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Mentor: Sthief09 (#2) - TecmoSuperBowl 4-tabling Review by sthief09

Sthief09 sits down with TecmoSuperBowl and reviews his play at 4-tables of 200NL.

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  • 76 minutes long
  • Posted about 3 years ago

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mikefut

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Time Link to 00:10:54

The betpot AHK script is good for this as well. You have to edit the script to make your mouse wheel up/down 1SB, but it becomes very easy to 2.5x on the button with a wheelup. I think tableninja does this, too.

Posted about 3 years ago

Yojimgari

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Preflop raise sizing:
I was opening to 4x/3.5x/3x/2.5x/3x in the first five positions(in 25nl 6max rush). Now I do 4x/4x/3.5x/3x/4x to get them to fold more often when I'm OOP, and build a bigger pot in LP. I play 21/19 or 20/18 at 25nl 6m rush. What are the cons of raising smaller? Why not build a bigger pot from LP? I wonder if I'm losing money by opening smaller on the button? The pros are that if my range is wider I want to open smaller and get a better price, I lose less when I fold to a 3bet, I can call a 3bet easier and have a high flop SPR which increases my positional advantage, and maybe a smaller raise size reduces variance. Please elaborate more on this. I was opening about 13%, 17%, 31%, 50%, 50% of hands in the first five positions btw. Thanks, Yojimgari

Posted about 3 years ago

Yojimgari

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75 checking behind flop
The flush draw discounts our gut shot, and our pair outs aren't always good, so our hand seems closer to air than to a draw. Why not cbet as bluff? What if he leads the turn if we check and we have nothing on the turn? Maybe check behind 4d5d instead? I'm not sure how often he'll check-raise all-in here? Thanks, Yojimgari

Posted about 3 years ago

Yojimgari

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T9
I don't like a call either. CO is short and can 3bet, BU is unknown mostly and not full stacked, we will often miss the flop, and the third opponent hurts our flop check-raise chances, we won't have relative position, or absolute position. On the flop do you like bet-fold or bet-3bet?

Posted about 3 years ago

Yojimgari

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KK 3bet
I agree with calling QQ and probably AK(?) sometimes. TAG's may 4bet QQ+/AK or fold OOP, and you aren't in dominating shape when 4bet, and maybe you want to keep in JJ/TT/AQ. If people squeeze behind, be more likely to call; and if weak players are behind, be more likely to call too.

Against good LAG, bad LAG, loose-passive, and short stack I like 3betting since they can 4bet light/thin and call OOP, is that good? Against tight-passive I think they fold a lot of hands, but they may not 4bet OOP QQ/AK so what should I do with QQ/AK against them? Against tight-TAG, standard TAG, and loose TAG, the more likely they are to 4bet or fold OOP the more likely I should call QQ/AK, if they call a lot or 4bet light/thin I should be more likely to 3bet QQ/AK, is that good?

Is it bad to call 3bets OOP like BalugaWhale says? Thanks, Yojimgari

Posted about 3 years ago

Sugar Nut

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Wow, I keep saying that in your videos Tecmo (and believe me, I only do that because I love your style in general):

I'm a huge monkey but 3betting a random unknown halfstack with A2o? Excuse me? Even I haven't reached that level of spew, and spew is my middle name.

I had a somewhat similar discussion in one of Josh's vodeo threads (the getting value from weak players vid) and he was able to at least somewhat convince me that A8o vs an aggrotard was ok to 3bet. He was IN POSITION in that hand though.

I frequently have over a 30 vpip (depending on the table) but we really don't have to do THAT to achieve a loose aggro image.

Posted about 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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The betpot AHK script is good for this as well. You have to edit the script to make your mouse wheel up/down 1SB, but it becomes very easy to 2.5x on the button with a wheelup. I think tableninja does this, too.



Will look into this. Thx Mike!

Posted about 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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Preflop raise sizing:
I was opening to 4x/3.5x/3x/2.5x/3x in the first five positions(in 25nl 6max rush). Now I do 4x/4x/3.5x/3x/4x to get them to fold more often when I'm OOP, and build a bigger pot in LP. I play 21/19 or 20/18 at 25nl 6m rush. What are the cons of raising smaller? Why not build a bigger pot from LP? I wonder if I'm losing money by opening smaller on the button? The pros are that if my range is wider I want to open smaller and get a better price, I lose less when I fold to a 3bet, I can call a 3bet easier and have a high flop SPR which increases my positional advantage, and maybe a smaller raise size reduces variance. Please elaborate more on this. I was opening about 13%, 17%, 31%, 50%, 50% of hands in the first five positions btw. Thanks, Yojimgari



The cons of raising smaller are that you can induce more 3b bluffs, but for all the reasons you stated, raising smaller > bigger imo.

Posted about 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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75 checking behind flop
The flush draw discounts our gut shot, and our pair outs aren't always good, so our hand seems closer to air than to a draw. Why not cbet as bluff? What if he leads the turn if we check and we have nothing on the turn? Maybe check behind 4d5d instead? I'm not sure how often he'll check-raise all-in here? Thanks, Yojimgari



I don't think cb is bad here, but just because there is a flush draw on the board doesn't mean he has it so I wouldn't discount our gut shot at all. This guy tended to float a lot of flops and if we cb we don't really gain any information and just bloat the pot w/ 7 high. Once he checked the turn, then we know he is weak.

Posted about 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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if they call a lot or 4bet light/thin I should be more likely to 3bet QQ/AK, is that good?



(I realize you prefer if Josh were to answer all these questions, but thought I'd share my thoughts as well.)

Yes, if they are calling or have a wide 4b range I'm definitely 3b QQ/AK.

Is it bad to call 3bets OOP?



Most of the time, yes.

Posted about 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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I'm a huge monkey but 3betting a random unknown halfstack with A2o? Excuse me? Even I haven't reached that level of spew, and spew is my middle name.



Let me know when you do Smile By then, hopefully I'll have fixed my spew and can help you with yours haha.

Posted about 3 years ago

A-LX

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I've noticed you tend to make your cbets in 3bet pots a bit on the larger side, mostly around 3/4pot. Wouldnt it be better to make them a bit smaller, so you can keep more hands in villain's calling range and have cheaper bluffs, when you have nothing or is there a reason you're using this betsize?

Posted about 3 years ago

TecmoSuperBowl

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I've noticed you tend to make your cbets in 3bet pots a bit on the larger side, mostly around 3/4pot. Wouldnt it be better to make them a bit smaller, so you can keep more hands in villain's calling range and have cheaper bluffs, when you have nothing or is there a reason you're using this betsize?



In theory, you are correct. Most of the time I will bet smaller for both value and as a bluff, but this particular instance involved some other aspects like history, board texture, my position, and my hand.

Posted about 3 years ago

A-LX

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ah ok, but with this hand for instance, what were the reasons for betting that size, because so far you havent been 3betting that much on the table and its the first time you've 3bet him, and the board seemed fairly dry to me.

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