shawn
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This is good stuff. But I don't want to let the whole intro music question fall between the cracks.
Maybe the reason the hand bothered me is the lack of context. With 99+ and AJ+ and the BB playing fit or fold the move seems very +EV (although it would be very interesting to calculate how often the flop will fit that range, monte carlo simulator anyone?), if you throw in KQ and KJ and/or your BB is ready to make a stand it becomes super-marginal, so I guess it depends pretty heavily on both your read on your opponent and your own image.
I tend to bomb away too much which would make your play chip suicide for me. I'd almost rather be out of position there and be first to fire (ala gus hansen). If I'm opening AQs there from the button and I get 3bet I'm gonna push or fold based on how fast I've been playing and how often I'm getting played back at.
Anyway, about that opening music...
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PanchoStern
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Hey I LOVE the intro music & I"m a pro musician so let's leave that as is. Now on a serious note....GREAT videos!!! I've seen the first 2 & just saw the premiere again & taking even more notes.
Can either one of you give a quick explanation on what a float is in WRITING? I mean I understand the concept (I think/hope!) but I want to have it in writing in my notes.
Thanks. To me this series just with the first 2 vids is already worth the price of admission. Heck I think it's worth a car payment honestly. How can you put a price on that?
As for the deliver I think DJ is great but the thing is , speaking as a music teacher myself, Vanessa has the gift of teaching. Very difficult to explain that & even harder to teach that. Just keep being yourself DJ! GREAT job both of you!
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DJ Sensei
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Can either one of you give a quick explanation on what a float is in WRITING? I mean I understand the concept (I think/hope!) but I want to have it in writing in my notes.
A "float" is when you call a bet with a marginal hand, intending to often take the pot away on later streets if your opponent shows weakness. The most common situation where floats happen is in position on the flop, facing a continuation bet from the preflop raiser. If you think that he will give up with his weak hands once you call, then you can float and bet on a later street to win the pot.
You can float with a hand that has a decent amount of equity/outs (like 2 overcards and a gutshot), you can float with a hand that may well be good but doesn't want a big pot (like second pair) or you can float with total air. The less equity you have, the more confident you should be about your chances of taking the pot away before deciding to do so. Floating typically works much better in position, but it can occasionally work from out of position as well. Float out of position with caution!
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PanchoStern
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betwitnothin
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DJ Sensei
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great video, I just played and completely misapplied all of the information. lol...guess Ill watch it again now.
If you spend some solid time thinking about
1) why a play works
2) when the best time to use it is (and against what type of opponents!)
then you'll do much better with fancy moves.
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Fjonkan
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Fischie
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Overall great video. Concepts were both explained and demonstrated thoroughly.
I had one question in regard to the floating concept (and I'm going to manipulate the actual hand to illustrate):
This is the first hand that Vanessa used to discuss double floating.
Vanessa had Ad10d on the button, and raised it. She was 3-bet by the big blind sabsters, and she called.
Flop came: 6d3c9s
sabsters bet $22.
Vanessa called
Turn: 4s.
Both check
Now, here is my question: in the actual hand, the river was the Jh. Fairly innocuous card. But what if the river had been something like the Ac...or a spade, some much more dangerous card. What would you do if sabsters then bet into you? Assume that he has something like a better Ace or he hit a flush and then you would fold? What if he didn't bet into you? Would you still try to bet or would you simply check behind?
I realize that this is a question largely dependent upon your opponent and your reads of them, but it seems to me that even in the lower stakes (I play mostly NL50) that people loove to bluff aces and flushes...
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DruffDruffDruff
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The second hand (cold 4bet with 33) would be a call if either the Bu or SB shoved. Hero needs 25% if the BU shoves and 34% if SB shoves. Vs a tight range (AK/QQ+) we have 34.6% equity.
This was really one of the best vids I've ever seen - great job!
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Dolorosa
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dunowhut
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By far the best video i ever watch.
I do have a comment about this 3-betting video tho. There are no spots where we call a 3-bet OOP with a decent/ marginal hand and didnt flop anything. Both the time we were OOP we hit TPQK and a set.
What would be your line be if the flops comes like AK2 when u have KQ or TT?
TQ
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DJ Sensei
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By far the best video i ever watch.
I do have a comment about this 3-betting video tho. There are no spots where we call a 3-bet OOP with a decent/ marginal hand and didnt flop anything. Both the time we were OOP we hit TPQK and a set.
What would be your line be if the flops comes like AK2 when u have KQ or TT?
TQ
Well, first of all, I don't really like flatcalling 3bets oop that much without a good reason (like deep stacks and/or a weak opponent). But anyhow, to answer your question: if your opponents range is weighted towards hands with an ace in them and big pairs (and I think most people's 3bet ranges are), then you can easily c/f this flop with TT, and probably KQ too. Your opponent is likely to bet with his big hands (and his weak ones, if his range has any) and check back if he's got something like QQ or JJ.
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chipwhacker
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