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KJs - 3bet pot riverplay


solid322

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Poker Stars $400.00 No Limit Hold'em - 4 players - View hand 580159
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SB: $470.00
BB: $407.45
CO: $247.00
Hero (BTN): $636.00

Pre Flop: ($3.00) Hero is BTN with J Spade K Spade
1 fold, Hero raises to $12, SB raises to $48, 1 fold, Hero calls $36

Flop: ($98.00) 2 Diamond 5 Club A Diamond (2 players)
SB bets $48.00, Hero calls $48

Turn: ($194.00) K Diamond (2 players)
SB bets $96.00, Hero calls $96

River: ($388.00) T Spade (2 players)
SB checks,

Villain is an aggressive regular with a 3bet of about ~11% over the last 500 hands. He has a high turn bet frequency so far over this sample so far. I expect him to barrel the turn with a very large portion of his total range so I elected to call.

On the river, once he checks I think he has a strong hand rarely. Should I just take the showdown or is there more value in turning my hand into a bluff and getting stronger hands such as Ax or slightly better to fold on the river since my perceived range will be very strong?

Posted almost 2 years ago

allwind

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It is player dependant. You should have a read and intention with what to do, before you make your calls. I believe raising and folding is better on all streets in the current hand, rather than calling. That is usualy my belief in most decisions. Calling is because you have a read and will know how he will react later in the hand. A read made on previous history, mainly on how he adjusts to you from what has been seen earlier.

If you do wanna spew around, I believe rasing turn all in is better than shoving river. But either is bad. You can also consider a min raise (or bigger) on the flop.

Posted almost 2 years ago

improva

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I would've folded the flop given your assumptions.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Holdem_lol

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I would've folded the flop given your assumptions.


+1

barrellers want you to call their cbet w/ mediocre hands and floats, so you have enough air in ur turn and river range for them to barrel. if you just fold to the cbet and strengthen ur turn range, his barreling strategy doesnt work any more.

Posted almost 2 years ago

beztro

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Would somebody really check that river with Ax with the intention of folding?

Posted almost 2 years ago

solid322

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I would've folded the flop given your assumptions.


+1

barrellers want you to call their cbet w/ mediocre hands and floats, so you have enough air in ur turn and river range for them to barrel. if you just fold to the cbet and strengthen ur turn range, his barreling strategy doesnt work any more.



I agree, that would be a good counter-strategy. However, how would we go about incorporating it in our overall gameplan after calling preflop with KJs? In order to have a stronger turn/river range vs his barrels, wouldn't that require us to fold a large percentage of flops, thus playing very close to fit or fold? How can we compensate for this, or do we have to at all, given that he'll barrel so much when we do actually hit?

Posted almost 2 years ago

allwind

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I agree, that would be a good counter-strategy. However, how would we go about incorporating it in our overall gameplan after calling preflop with KJs? In order to have a stronger turn/river range vs his barrels, wouldn't that require us to fold a large percentage of flops, thus playing very close to fit or fold? How can we compensate for this, or do we have to at all, given that he'll barrel so much when we do actually hit?



When you do call, raise more flops with a wider range.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Holdem_lol

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When you do call, raise more flops with a wider range.



yeah, raise stuff u cant call (down): like gutshot, overcards + BDFD, bottom pair + 5 outer, etc

Posted almost 2 years ago

solid322

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Thanks all for the replies. I ended up checking river and he flipped over AQ.

Posted almost 2 years ago




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