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NL400 river desicion with a bluff

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PHIL_51

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villain is a reg, opens like 17%. he's not great, more on the loose passive side. likes to pot control etc a bit too much

I havent ran any big bluffs so far but have been fairly active against him. he has been folding some post flop but nothing significant.


what to do on this river?




$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
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6 Players
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Stacks:
UTG ($513) 128bb
UTG+1 ($340.60) 85bb
CO ($400) 100bb
BTN ($506) 127bb
Hero (SB) ($1,188.90) 297bb
BB ($420.50) 105bb

Pre-Flop: ($6, 6 players) Hero is SB AClub QClub
UTG raises to $12, 3 folds, Hero calls $10, 1 fold

Flop: 10Club JDiamond 8Heart ($28, 2 players)
Hero bets $28, UTG calls $28

Turn: 3Heart ($84, 2 players)
Hero bets $70, UTG calls $70

River: QHeart ($224, 2 players)
Hero ($1078.9)?

Posted 11 months ago

Steppin Razor

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Seems like a good card to keep bluffing, so I'd bet it. If he recognizes that it is a good card to bluff, he might call light and if he doesn't recognize it he's folding a lot (worse and better hands). And if it shows down, you should be able to value town rivers against this guy a lot in the future.

Posted 11 months ago

zachd2323

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Seems like a good card to keep bluffing, so I'd bet it. If he recognizes that it is a good card to bluff, he might call light and if he doesn't recognize it he's folding a lot (worse and better hands). And if it shows down, you should be able to value town rivers against this guy a lot in the future.



It seems like a good card in that villain should very rarely have a flush or 9x hands. The problem is that I also don't think we rep very much and if he might just decide to bluff-catch. Hero has almost no 9x hands here and only very few combos of flushes. I guess hero can also maybe value bet sets, but not sure this is the line you'd take with a set. What does your donking range look like on this flop?

Posted 11 months ago

Steppin Razor

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I personally don't have a donk range on the flop. I rarely do it, and even more rarely do it HU. I don't know what our stats look like re: how many 9s are in our perceived range, but it is true we don't rep a ton of nutted type hands. Do we need to though? If we can have some few sets, a few straight/flush hands, some 2 pairs, and the bottom of our value range is TPTK, but not too many bluff hands, then it's okay/good if he bluff catches, no?

Posted 11 months ago

Inferno_K

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Think its great card to check for showdown. Bet for value is too thin. For a bluff not much sence against someone who likes potcontrol

Posted 11 months ago

StackHunter

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Wow this is weird.

Preflop
You prob can't 3b for value, flatting is fine.

Flop

more on the loose passive side. likes to pot control etc a bit too much



= you can easily get a free card
So why did you lead the flop? You have 2 OC+double gutter+bd FD, you can always donk turn+river, if the flop will go x/x.


As played, the river shove should be ok, since you can rep some backdoor FDs, maybe TT/JJ for ultra thin value.

But overall I think that again you packed yourself in a huge pot, where reads are necessary to make the right decision. Otherwise - we are just guessing...

Posted 11 months ago




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