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villain is a nitty guy who likes to raise donk bets, he also 4bets pre quite a bit so I call. BB wasn't sqzy.


do you like turning our hand into a bluff here oop? I don't assume him to raise fd's otf and we have a nice blocker aswell..


$2/$4 No Limit Holdem
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Stacks:
UTG ($587.90) 147bb
CO ($488) 122bb
BTN ($135.70) 34bb
Hero (SB) ($714.80) 179bb
BB ($418.80) 105bb

Pre-Flop: ($6, 5 players) Hero is SB A J
1 fold, CO raises to $10, 1 fold, Hero calls $8, 1 fold

Flop: 6 9 A ($24, 2 players)
Hero bets $20, CO raises to $50, Hero calls $30

Turn: 10 ($124, 2 players)
Hero checks, CO bets $80, Hero calls $80

River: 4 ($284, 2 players)
Hero bets $238

i dont get it.

when you say "villain....likes to raise donk bets", which parts of his range does he raise donk bets with?

well, I assume he's raising some tp's, some gs and some total air. over like 5 samples he had raised 4 donk bets (no notes of showdown tho).

i don't play that limit. but isn't maybe folding flop or turn best if we think he has so many better hands in his range that we have to turn our hand into a bluff on the river?

or if we think he raises donkbets light check/call or check/fold river depending on how often we think he keep bluffing certain rivercards and how thin he can valuebet.

I think your line is very exploitable against good regular. Versus nitty reg i think it's not bad until he does not raise you on flop.
With information about his raising flop donks i thing he has draw obviously in his range. But considering your position he must understand what you have and may be raisihg less with draws. Anyway i thing it's discipline fold
I like river shove there

well, I assume he's raising some tp's, some gs and some total air. over like 5 samples he had raised 4 donk bets (no notes of showdown tho).

Are you saying you think his air gives up on the turn?

Are you saying you think his air gives up on the turn?

nope, not saying that. he prob has some bluffs otr for sure.

I think he very rarely raises the flop with a fd, ppl just flat it way more eventho they would raise donk bets. I like donking the river bc 1) I think he folds better hands 2) we take his opportunity to bluff away from him (w good blocker too) and we dont need to make a tough desicion otr.

If villain only folds better hands if he cannot read hands.

I 70% assumed this is the case.. against a strong reg this prob looks like exactly what it is.

Preflop
Good call, AJo is too weak for 3b/5c w/o some really solid reads+dynamics.

Flop
I don't like the donkbet for few reasons:
- although his Raise vs Donkbet is (4/5) this could be a sample size issue
- you have no clue what he raised with, which is very important (TPGK for thin value, strong draws, weak draws, AIR?)
- no reads on him postflop
- 122 bb is way way too much to risk with AJ on this board
- you lead on the board, that he is gonna c-bet like ~~ 100% of the time - I'd x/c and try to get to the SD

Turn
87s got there, T9 and AT too (if he raises them), now it's a really awful spot.


River
Ekhm, you don't really rep a FD with KQ/KJ/QJ/QT...I'd give you max 2 of them. And the rest are mostly combo draws -> you'd prob donk/3b them OTF. I mean, your fold equity on the river is not that big imo.

To sum up, you packed yourself into a huge pot, with a marginal hand, on a super wet board, without any reads and you want to make it +EV. It's gonna be too hard man, Difficulty Level: Asian.