dzejkej
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Another great Vid - thank you very much
I would have a question on this one:
I absolutely can see the problem and the possible negative scenarios when a 4th Colour will fall on the river for all your reasons.
But I am anyways not sure if this problem is large enough to make on the turn imo such an obv. play by C/Jamming?
The thing is that his flopraiserange includes many many aircombos.
All this combos will continue bluffing on this turn.
-> hence it would make sense to B/Call Flop and C/Call also this turn for instance 9x9h,TxTh,JhYh, QxQh, KxKh,AxAh (btw.: for this reason I would probably C/cry-Fold on a 4th-Colour vs. a Jam).
Now: By C/Calling only here the turn with our present hand,
a.) there is a small chance (probably not a too big one, when he is not so aggr., but I would guess >0%) that he will Bluffjamming on a blankRiver vs. the mentioned part of our preceived Range then
b.) we protect here somewhat this mentioned range and can more often confidently C/F the river on a blank with these hands.
-> hence I think you can actually make some reasons for only C/Call turn though I am tbh of course not sure if this pro-Reasons are compensate for the Contra-reasons (possible negative scenarios on a 4thcolour + giving up our protectionvalue vs. AhYx and even Sets...).
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@dzejkej:
Don`t worry about your english, I suck even more
But who cares? We are men and from what I have heard, more often than not only girls are talented from their nature in such stuff like foreign language.
In contrast to this men are more talented on average in logical thinking...
I prefer to be talented in the last one - so what?
@ladies: No offense, Babies^^ - I have only heard this, so it is not my fault 
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Hielko
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Prologion; You have a point that x/calling protects our weaker hands from getting bluffed on the river, but that's something I would certainly not worry about with this villain. A big part of the reason why we check/raise is that we do not expect him to continue bluffing a lot of rivers, if we would expect that we probably should call the turn (and not to balance our range, but just because it would get more value, balance would only be a side product).
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Prologion
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Prologion; You have a point that x/calling protects our weaker hands from getting bluffed on the river, but that's something I would certainly not worry about with this villain. A big part of the reason why we check/raise is that we do not expect him to continue bluffing a lot of rivers, if we would expect that we probably should call the turn (and not to balance our range, but just because it would get more value, balance would only be a side product).
All right, thx for answering^^
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In Coaching Tree Series 2 Bonus Episode 10 I think - Baluga goes into a quite an extensive discussion of TT - maybe that will help with your thinking on 4bet small vs shove.
It is not insignificant to our equity for villian to fold AJ or suited Aces of Kings in his 3bet bluff range. Particularly if he never 4bet shoves them.
It did sort of worry me - when Hero kept saying oh I only ever 5bet shove the bottom end of his value range. Maybe I misheard.........but seems pretty transparent if 99-JJ AQ is the only hands he shoves and his 4bet small range is either folding or is nutted.
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kagame
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People will 5 bet shove much worse than TT here. A2 is actually a likely spew! When you cold call in middle position with TT here you are basically at the top of your range.
I was not at all surprised to see 88. Pretty standard hand.
What else is the 11% 3 bet coming from? I don't even mind the play with 88 because as I said TT is the top of the cold call range. I would expect to see AQ at best, TT and 99 rarely if ever. You will probably be playing back at his squeeze with scs, small pairs, basically air type hands if you are adjusting properly like was mentioned.
Basically TT is the nuts here.
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kagame
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I would like to thank Hielko and Deucescracked for this opportunity! 
Also I'm terribly sorry for my english, guys. I'm not used to speak english, so please make sure you are not playing during or right after this episode and don't spew off whole bankroll being on a "language tilt"
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Just as an aside, I think you are a better player at these stakes than a player who may be more experienced who is coaching you and not familiar with the way this low/mid stakes game plays these days. If I were you, I would try to trust my instincts and reads. You are not just getting lucky, you are spot on in about every single hand.
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dzejkej
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If I were you, I would try to trust my instincts and reads. You are not just getting lucky, you are spot on in about every single hand.
Thank you for encouragement
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I was "right" in hands that are in the video, but I've prepared more of them for the recording and not every single one ended happily
. What I wanted to know in the hands I've won was if it was just a FPS and I was lucky to run into a tilting opponent or into the better part of their range or the thought process itself was sound.
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dzejkej
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It did sort of worry me - when Hero kept saying oh I only ever 5bet shove the bottom end of his value range. Maybe I misheard.........but seems pretty transparent if 99-JJ AQ is the only hands he shoves and his 4bet small range is either folding or is nutted.
Yes, before I was 4bet shoving over squeezes with hands you've mentioned and also with some slowplays. Defending against squeezes in one of my weak areas and it worries me too
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Thanks for recommending me Episode 10 of the Coaching Tree! 
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