nl100: AQ in bvb - how aggro?

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reemas
Deuce High
62 posts
Joined 01/08

Opponent was 32/20 after 90 hands. 3bets about 14% of the time. how do you play this in bvb?

i like 4 betting, but then it's going to suck if he shoves pf.

Full Tilt Poker $0.50/$1 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
UTG: $100.00
MP: $141.50
CO: $110.75
BTN: $103.15
Hero (SB): $114.65
BB: $115.60

Pre Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with A Q
4 folds, Hero raises to $4, BB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

Flop: ($24.00) K J 9 (2 players)

I was lost pf though, so comments on both streets please.

Posted Sep 7, 2008 10:27pm

Manchild
Deuces Full
859 posts
Joined 01/08

probably 4 bet PF, and if there is any history, even be willing to get it in.
this may be a bit aggro for nl100, but i like 4betting more than i like calling against this guy and playing OOP, and once you 4bet you will actually be getting a decent price and its BvB so he can justify so shoves w/o the nizzuts

Posted Sep 7, 2008 11:01pm

duffte
Deuces Full
523 posts
Joined 04/08

Opponent was 32/20 after 90 hands. 3bets about 14% of the time.



i like 4 betting, but then it's going to suck if he shoves pf.



hmmm no
im all in

Posted Sep 8, 2008 8:33am

Victimise
Deuce High
22 posts
Joined 09/08

as played c/f.

4b/call pre.

Posted Sep 10, 2008 1:06am

RhymesWithBuck
Deuce High
74 posts
Joined 01/08

90 hands total * .32 VPIP = 29 hands played

29 hands * 20/32 = 18 hands raised

1/7 = 14%, Villain can not have 3bet more than twice, likely only once.

What kind of hands have you seen Villain show up with in the raised pots they have been playing? Is the Villain positionally aware?

Posted Sep 10, 2008 1:54pm

action_jp
Quad Deuces
1024 posts
Joined 02/08

Preflop is fine. 4betting/call is ok too - 4bet/folding I'm not a fan of.. it seems spewy.

Just fold on the flop?

Posted Sep 10, 2008 2:25pm

SquirrelsUnite
Deuce High
3 posts
Joined 08/08

probably 4 bet PF, and if there is any history, even be willing to get it in.



Any reason why you would consider 4bet/folding against any villain? Can you give a player type against which this is the best play?

Posted Sep 12, 2008 10:01am

action_jp
Quad Deuces
1024 posts
Joined 02/08

I can't think of a situation where I want to 4bet/fold AQ against anyone - I would either call/fold to the 3bet or 4bet/call with AQ.

Posted Sep 12, 2008 2:21pm

Hielko
Quad Deuces
1114 posts
Joined 07/08

I can't think of a situation where I want to 4bet/fold AQ against anyone - I would either call/fold to the 3bet or 4bet/call with AQ.


Yeah, 4bet/folding AQo is imo almost always not the best option. If villains range is weak enough where you can 4bet AQ his 5betting range is almost always weak enough to call.

Posted Sep 12, 2008 3:25pm

SquirrelsUnite
Deuce High
3 posts
Joined 08/08

I can't think of a situation where I want to 4bet/fold AQ against anyone - I would either call/fold to the 3bet or 4bet/call with AQ.



I agree but Manchild's post suggested that he might do sometimes. So I was wondering what his reasoning was behind this.

Posted Sep 13, 2008 12:49pm

action_jp
Quad Deuces
1024 posts
Joined 02/08

I agree but Manchild's post suggested that he might do sometimes. So I was wondering what his reasoning was behind this.


I think Manchild actually suggests here that once you 4bet you're priced into calling a shove, because you're getting good pot odds and it's BvB and people sometimes lose their minds.

Posted Sep 13, 2008 2:57pm