knut
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Very good at poker you are.
Great format this is.
/Star Wars references
Format with skipping is great. I do like the rambling, but if you feel that you're out of material skipping is a lot better than just waiting for something to happen.
Btw, how about a podcast type thing with just 30-40 minutes of your rambling? Then FWF rambling the week after. Then Whitelime. And so on... Just a suggestion, would be pretty awesome I think.
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NoWayFolding
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Hey Krantz,
First hand you have 55 and say you 4bet big to reduce any illusion of him having any fold equity.
Ok understood that part....
The thing I dont understand is 4betting big with 55 yet 4betting small with AA. Now I routinely 4bet (and always small) vs a lot of players at my limit who have an insanely high 3bet %, however what I dont get is the balancing part. If we 4bet small with 55 and all the PPs, it gives the illusion of FE, so he is going to 5bet jam a wider range, so that when we do have AA-JJ and the like we can get it in good.
Also if you have 2 different 4betting ranges (small/big), it makes your 4bet small (for value) range a LOT tighter, meaning you cannot 4bet bluff as much.
Surely this is bad, and means that we are going to have to fold a lot more to his 3bets because we cannot represent as much when we 4bet small (as our range is a lot tighter) or is there a way to compensate that like by making small 4bets with big cards rather than PP?
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NoWayFolding
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Lol at the 22 hand.
I remember railbirdng this ages ago not knowing who you were.
At the time was really really interested in both of your plays and that 1 outer always sticked in my mind because I knew 1 outers even happened at 40k NL.
Also how old is this video must be like a year old?
Got another question.
If you had KKc on the turn in that 22 hand are you playing it the same.
Might be a really dumb question but in regards to Jman c/c c/r with a set, would he be shoving a blank on the river/calling it off if you shoved on the turn?
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sjettlug
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I like the skipping forward part at these stakes to hear how you`re thinking in the interesting spots. Just unfortunately for me I railed the 22 and AA hand so i remembered it lol. Just one silly question: When you have aces at nosebleedstakes and 4-bet them, do you get a pulse and praying for a push? or is it just another day at the office thinking whatever??
keep up the good work pyramid!
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KRANTZ
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KRANTZ
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the skipping between hands is good, although tbh I would rather see you and FWF (hopefully returning soon) playing alot more MSNL games just because you are prob the two best NL instructors, its fun to watch these stakes but its obv not hugely applicable to the majority of mid stakes players
you are going to be very happy come next season.
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KRANTZ
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The skipping is fine for recorded videos, but it's also nice to have live-recorded videos where the commentary is occuring while you play. I think it provides additional insight into what's going on in your head while you play. I can understand not doing that for 200/400 games though 
Yeah, I didn't go into the session planning on recording it but when it looked like the games would go for awhile I called Rob and had him Camtasia it just in case. There are obvious pros/cons to live recording, just as there are to recording audio after the fact, and I think I've struck a nice balance between both seasons of this series. I hope.
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KRANTZ
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I too like this format, and would def like to see the end of this seassion. I think it is great to see you play against players you have tons of history with.
Regarding the KQ hand Larz Luzak played against Urindanger, dont you think that larz bet the flop intending to fire multiple barrels, but changed his mind once that A paired on the turn?
That is a good point that I hadn't considered. The A pairing makes a turn bluff less credible to some extent, but at the same time when two very good players are playing (and Lars has a good image for this, actually), that A pairing might make a bluff against QQ or KK more credible (there aren't any draws he could be semibluffing)... Regardless of his reasoning, his flop bet size sucks.
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KRANTZ
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Great video. I like the format and also the fact that it is at these stakes because the situations that come up are much more interesting.
When you 4bet small to a pot committing size with 55 against stoner, what's the advantage of 4betting to that size over just 4bet shoving?
Also in the hand where you click it back with K7s on a TT5r flop against that stoner guy, why do you choose to click it back when you plan to bluff the turn anyway? Isn't the whole point in clicking it back to make bluffs cheaper? You might as well reraise bigger, or do you expect him to peel a bigger reraise just about as often as a minreraise?
Btw would you agree that Mace Windu is the most badass Jedi of all?
Re: 4-betting to 16k vs shoving, there isn't much difference although you could argue that 16k might look more like AK to your opponent and cause him to fold hands like AJ or AQ, whereas shoving looks like Ax or a pocket pair.
Re: the minreraise - what you said last. I think if he is going to peel the minreraise, he's just as likely peeling to a bigger reraise, and with the same range, so regardless of whether or not I fire the turn, that makes a turn bluff more expensive and dilutes the strength of the first bluff in the first place. So yes, the whole point is to get a really good price on a cheap bluff, but I prolly could have better expressed myself by saying bluff or bluff(s).
And it's Yoda. "It is obvious that this contest cannot be decided by our knowledge of the Force but by our skills with a lightsaber." And an entire geek universe orgasmed. Not close.
Maybe Anakin Solo if you count the EU.
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KRANTZ
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Hey Krantz,
First hand you have 55 and say you 4bet big to reduce any illusion of him having any fold equity.
Ok understood that part....
The thing I dont understand is 4betting big with 55 yet 4betting small with AA. Now I routinely 4bet (and always small) vs a lot of players at my limit who have an insanely high 3bet %, however what I dont get is the balancing part. If we 4bet small with 55 and all the PPs, it gives the illusion of FE, so he is going to 5bet jam a wider range, so that when we do have AA-JJ and the like we can get it in good.
Also if you have 2 different 4betting ranges (small/big), it makes your 4bet small (for value) range a LOT tighter, meaning you cannot 4bet bluff as much.
Surely this is bad, and means that we are going to have to fold a lot more to his 3bets because we cannot represent as much when we 4bet small (as our range is a lot tighter) or is there a way to compensate that like by making small 4bets with big cards rather than PP?
For this to matter he has to actually be 5-bet shoving wide. If he is 5-bet shoving wide, you will always get paid off even if you only 4-bet small with the top of your range. Big difference between theory and practice here. If you narrow your small 4b value range, and the opponent you're playing is jamming every time you 4-b small (pretty extreme example to start), then either start opening tighter or just jam all your bluffs, or fold to his 3-bets. Piece o cake.
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KRANTZ
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Got another question.
If you had KKc on the turn in that 22 hand are you playing it the same.
Might be a really dumb question but in regards to Jman c/c c/r with a set, would he be shoving a blank on the river/calling it off if you shoved on the turn?
Yes, he would never fold his hand and it would be awful to play it like that with that stack size and ever considering folding. I would play KK the same and fold the river, if I had KK with no club I would fold to his checkraise.
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