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he 3bets 35%, bets every flop if he doesn't hit and c/c with KJ high on A42 twice etc etc

He saw me flatting AA to his 3bet where he had Q9 and he bet 8Tx FD, bet blank turn and c/c river 9 AI.

So my question is, is there any hand you FLAT when hes pot comiting himself besides sets or tp type of hands where we feel like we have the best hand so we call and call any river?

Is there any range you flat turn and fold the river?
I feel like I have the best hand here a lot if not I am doing fine against his b/c range if behind so I felt like he MIGHT b/c the turn with a worse draw and jammed.

Overall it looks std but I just wanna know if our decision changes if we have lets say AQ high with the nutflushdraw compared to the actual hand?

$25/$50 No Limit Holdem
2 Players
Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

Stacks:
Hero ($18,345)
BB ($5,249.50)

Pre-Flop: ($75, 2 players) Hero is SB 3 A
Hero raises to $100, BB raises to $400, Hero calls $300

Flop: 5 10 2 ($800, 2 players)
BB bets $500, Hero calls $500

Turn: K ($1,800, 2 players)
BB bets $1,800, $1800 to Hero ($17445)?

bet sizing reeks of like JQ or turned hearts or a pure bluff often enough that i would jam and feel really good about it

So my question is, is there any hand you FLAT when hes pot comiting himself besides sets or tp type of hands where we feel like we have the best hand so we call and call any river?

Why would we ever call those hands? I think the probability of him bet/folding on the turn is lower than him check/folding river with missed draws

I learned from 2M2MM that when someone presses the pot button they are always bluffing.

All in with your hand and probably all in w/ AQx too

wlad - what do you do on the turn with:

a. 77
b. AQhh
c. As2s
d. KsJs
e. AQo
f. As3s

wlad - what do you do on the turn with:

a. 77
b. AQhh
c. As2s
d. KsJs
e. AQo
f. As3s

a. probably fold, I 4bet it preflop tho
b. shove
c. is same as 77 but has more outs if behind plus a blocker of a huge draw, now sure
d. call turn call river or jam turn is close but i probably flat to let him think im folding SOME rivers
e. not in my range cos i 4bet pre against him. as played shove
f. all in


to me it looks like all those hands are similar against his range besides KJ which is the nuts in this spot?

Wait just wanna clear this up...

You 4bet AQo but call AQs... That because AQs flops dominating draws?

Wait just wanna clear this up...

You 4bet AQo but call AQs... That because AQs flops dominating draws?

4bet both, my bad

why 4-bet 77 preflop? calling should be better against this guy than 4balling unless he jams pre every single time... or you fold in the wrong spots postflop :-)

in figuring out how to beat up a guy like this you need to really think about what kinds of hands he bets like this for value/what kinds of hands he bluffs with (100% of his 3betting range either way? you tell me... does he jam all of them on every type of river? likely not...)

basically - if you're folding all weak made hands and only jamming draws (or wondering about hero calling down with them) then you run the huge risk of bleeding tons of money in non showdown winnings to him...

stoving ranges would be really useful imo

fwiw i jam everything but KJ and 77 (but sometimes, i call with both AQ hands and A2, depends on how tight i'm playing)

I just want to add that a good % of smart players will use this sizing to induce a shove from medium strength hands. Based on the info in the OP it doesn't sound like this guy fits the profile, but it's def something you should think about.

fwiw i jam everything but KJ and 77 (but sometimes, i call with both AQ hands and A2, depends on how tight i'm playing)

you call AQ because you think Ahi is good?

also what does being tight have to do with you calling or jamming.. I dont understand :s