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Stats on Villain: 26/18/2.6af over 1,2k hands

I have not played against him before this session(,yes it was a long one), but I know he is a regular at nl1k and nl2k at the site. He has been flatting most of my opens, probably because it was a big fish behind. He has taken away a few pots on the turn from me, besides from that we have no other history. I havent seen him out of line.

I think he knows that im a regular, and the hands I have shown down so far against other players, has been pretty straight forward.


HERO ($5,839)
VILLAIN ($11,079)
Player 1 ($4,332)
Player 2 ($2,646)
Player 3 ($6,335)
Player 4 ($7,597)

HERO posts (SB) $10
VILLAIN posts (BB) $20

Dealt to HERO Ac As
fold, fold, fold, fold,
HERO raises to $80
VILLAIN calls $60

FLOP ($160) 2c 6s Qh
HERO bets $120
VILLAIN raises to $400
HERO calls $280

TURN ($960) 2c 6s Qh 6d
HERO checks
VILLAIN checks

RIVER ($960) 2c 6s Qh 6d 3d
HERO checks
VILLAIN bets $825
HERO ?


Is is too thin to CR this river ? Im pretty sure i got the best hand here a big portion of the time, but since we dont have any special aggresive dynamics, I dont think I get looked up very often.

You are most likely good but at the same time i cant see him calling a raise with worse. You have no air in your range at this point so he knows youre not bluffng. Plus if you just call you get to see what he is raising you with on the flop which maybe be useful information for the future.
A final minor point (as i think its unlikely here) if you raise and he reraises you are in a horrible spot.

Just check-call the way it played out; I'd expect him to fold most queens to a large raise and I'd expect him to consider a re-raise bluff versus a small-checkraise as you would obviously be trying to value town a Qx type hand (rather than trying to value town the 45 straight or trips).

why wouldnt villain bet the turn?

I ship here...

3betting flop is kinda cool too.

I ship here...

3betting flop is kinda cool too.

Def don't like 3betting the flop. We're almost 300 bb deep, so we're gonna get shat on when he has 66 or 22 and we're gonna just fold out basically any air he's bluff raising the flop with. Shipping river is a pretty huge overbet btw.

River seems like a spot where you're good really often, but it also seems really tough to get called by worse, so I'd just call.

what hands could you ever be bluffing at the river?

i dont like aynthing else but calling river

Much more value in calling here, the info you gain alone could be worth calling here let alone the fact you have the best hand here almost always.
He is never calling a raise with worse & I include all Qs in that.

Sigh nvm. I always assume we are 100BB deep.....

woweeeeee i c/r and don't think twice about it. your line looks super weird and you instantly get looked up by any queen very often. you so rarely have the worst hand that it's almost a freeroll and if you really think you don't get looked up here then either a) you have no idea how airy your line looks, b) you don't c/r bluff enough (or ever), or c) both of the above (most likely c). i think it would be realllll bad to flat here.

n/m i misread hand - thought flop just went bet/call. it's closer than i thought but in any event, i still c/r and don't really think much of it. if he's thin value betting a Q he can easily put us on a stubborn 88 turning it into a bluff. you'd be surprised what people can call with if you just give them a chance.

Does really noone like 3betting flop?

Know 200BB that can be standard..... Just wondering the same for 300BB deep?

Does really noone like 3betting flop?

Know 200BB that can be standard..... Just wondering the same for 300BB deep?

3-betting the flop is really really bad unless you are psychotic and so is he

c/r, its blind vs blind, his range is pretty wide here.

I think 2200 and fold to a shove is perfect. I think he has Qx like 70% of the time, bluffs maybe 20% and 10% we're beat. To those saying we can't have bluffs. Well it's pretty obvious he's got either Qx or bluff very often, and he realizes that too. Thus our Q9/TT type hands aren't profitable calls. We need to be turning pairs into bluffs, but this is a pretty standard spot to do it I think with this line his river bluff frequency is less than 25%.

The line up to the river seems excellent. Call flop because he gives up air to 3bet, we're not happy getting 4-bet, keeps our range wider allowing him to valuetown himself and bluff. Given we're deep and its Bvb I think it's more likely he has Qx here than normal, raising for value and knowing he can control the pot later on (no fear of 3bet etc) and put our underpairs/weak Q in tough spots. River check is good, we can't rep any bluffs by leading, and most hands that call will bet anyways, and of course bluffs are more likely to bet river than bluffraise our lead.