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Hi guys, it's my first time posting here, and anyway I found a hand and what Tom Dwan said interesting during the first episode of HSP S5, btw, if you wanna check it out, it starts at the 21.52 in the episode. So here goes, at blinds of $400/$800 and ante of $200
Peter Eastgate raises to $2500 in MP2 with A6 and picks up 3 callers with Tom Dwan with 76 at BB.

Flop comes: 6 5 3

SB checks, Tom Dwan(BB) bets $7,700 into $11,4600.
Peter Eastgate(MP2) calls $7,700 to make a $27,000 pot.
Everyone else folds.

Turn comes : 6

Tom Dwan(BB) bets $20,200 into $27,200, Peter Eastgate(MP2) calls.

River comes: K

Tom Dwan(BB) bets $53,900 into $67,400, Peter Eastgate(MP2) calls.

Then, Tom Dwan gets shocked and when Peter Eastgate asked whether he should've reraised, Dwan said that he should have.

Now my question is that, do you guys think it would be legit for Peter to reraise there? Imo, 74s and 42s would have been close to the btm of Dwan's preflop calling range, but he could also have pocket 3s pocket 5 and 56s.

Hope you guys will answer my question! Thanks alot! I'm just starting to learn about poker recently haha!

No, what happened was Eastgate asked Dwan if he would have called had Eastgate raised. And Dwan said yes. Dwan is saying he would have called with his exact holding. "Should Eastgate have raised?" is a different question because Eastgate does not know Dwan's holding. You were being results oriented just now! We typically try to avoid this when thinking about poker hands as much as possible.

Does he need to raise top of his range when all the straight draws and flush draw misses? Is this the question you're asking?

I think eastgate played it fine and that a lot of Durrrrr's reaction as well as the table's was needling/head games.

I don't think Eastgate should raise this river. Dwan has shown a lot of strength on a paired board, so Eastgate could clearly already be beat (FH, straights). Also, a raise by Eastgate here would look incredibly strong -- basically only a FH would do this. Despite what Dwan said on the show, I doubt he would call with his actual holding, unless he has good reason to believe Eastgate is bluffing.

In other words, a raise accomplishes nothing: you're pretty much always folding out worse (apart perhaps for straights, although straights may call), and always getting called or reraised by better.

In microstakes, a raise/fold here would be very good play though...

I just think Durrr thinks he has best hand almost always when Eastgate calls turn and calls river so he was little shocked. I don't think Eastgate should raise river though. As joel said, it accomplishes nothing.

You were being results oriented just now! We typically try to avoid this when thinking about poker hands as much as possible.

geneius what do you mean by me being results oriented? And yea I'll try to avoid being that! ( Once I know what it means haha)

Does he need to raise top of his range when all the straight draws and flush draw misses? Is this the question you're asking?

Not exactly my question, but how would you answer your question because its very interesting, for me i feel he doesn't need to raise top of his range because like geneius said Eastgate doesn't know Dwan's holding and like what joel said, Dwan has shown lots of strength on a paired board.

Btw, thank you everyone for your response!

Yeah.. not raising is fine.. it'd be tough to assign a range of hands that dwan is bet/calling the river with that eastgate beats but..


Board: 6d 5h 3d 6s Ks
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 42.593% 40.74% 01.85% 11 0.50 { Ah6h }
Hand 1: 57.407% 55.56% 01.85% 15 0.50 { 55, 33, A6s, K6s, Q6s, 96s, 86s, 76s, 74s, 63s+, 86o, 76o, 65o }


Board: 6d 5h 3d 6s Ks
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 47.436% 43.59% 03.85% 17 1.50 { Ah6h }
Hand 1: 52.564% 48.72% 03.85% 19 1.50 { 55, 33, A6s, K6s, Q6s, J6s, T6s, 96s, 86s, 76s, 74s, 62s+, 42s, A6o, 96o, 86o, 76o, 65o }


I've yet to find a hand range that's reasonable with 50% equity on the shove. There would have to be a ton of a 6x (like nearly all of them) in dwan's bet/call river range and/or some Kdxd hands (which I highly doubt calls a shove)..