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% chance he raises a smaller flush for value > % chance he decides to bluff here with maybe the A as a blocker or something?

Hmm thinking about this, I would say the latter % is what we have to question. I think the first part, whether he value check raises worse is actually fairly static and possibly negligible. He'd first have to have a smaller flush and also decide to check raise with them - seems fairly unlikely for any reg to do this without significant history.

I think the % chance he bluffs is something that I am fairly uncertain about. I'd probably have to give him the benefit of the doubt without many reads though.

i dont know the villian all that much but he was playing well 3beting a lot i had 4bet him a ton also and he had folded everytime he was obviously tilted by me but he seemed okay to just let me win pots and focuses on the fish. I had won no pots of him that were large or significant

Given this, I really find it hard to believe he's 3betting Axs (besides AQs) here very often against you. If it seems he'd rather avoid you and play against fish, he's not going to take a playable hand like Axs and risk getting 4bet off of it or having to call and play an inflated pot (but still pretty deep) OOP.

Any chance you think he's capable of turning AsAx into a bluff, knowing you can't have the nuts?

i really don't think he shoves flushes that aren't the nutz i mean he knows im pycho but at the same time he doesn't think im bad and we don't really have any history as such

fyi - i called

fyi - i called

And he had...... ??

i really don't think he shoves flushes that aren't the nutz i mean he knows im pycho but at the same time he doesn't think im bad and we don't really have any history as such

fyi - i called

Especially given the flushes you block I think this is pretty valid. I wrote otherwise above but have reconsidered.

fyi - I want to knowwwwwwwww. Not gonna be surprised if he showed the nuts but still think I would make a call.

he had?

KK

This is a pretty good one IMO. Its simply pretty hard to know what to do here. In this case the outcome does matter.

They key I think is whether he is capable of checking a flush draw on the turn.

I doubt many good players would do this so therefore it's hard to find a fold here.

I think your ahead and should call.

I actually misread the hand and thought he bet turn for some reason :s Maybe I'll do a real detailed analysis tomorrow to see what had to have gone down for calling/fold to be +EV

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They key I think is whether he is capable of checking a flush draw on the turn.

I doubt many good players would do this so therefore it's hard to find a fold here.
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I thought there was a reasonable chance he could ck/call with something like A4ss A3ss b/c he's scared of a turn raise idk

I thought there was a reasonable chance he could ck/call with something like A4ss A3ss b/c he's scared of a turn raise idk

I agree with this, not because he's scared of a raise (necessarily) but because he has a great hand to x/c turn and either x/f or x/soulread river.

he had?

KK

NH, he has to discount flushes some what since you might check back? or would you rarely do this when you are so deep?

NH, he has to discount flushes some what since you might check back? or would you rarely do this when you are so deep?

Are you asking if hero checks back his flush on the river? Doing so would be criminal.

Are you asking if hero checks back his flush on the river? Doing so would be criminal.

He means check back the turn.