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Poker Stars $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players - View hand 217612
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UTG: $2325.50
MP: $1259.00
CO: $1000.00
BTN: $363.35
SB: $1457.00
Hero (BB): $1107.00

Pre Flop: ($15.00) Hero is BB with Q J
1 fold, MP raises to $30, 2 folds, SB calls $25, Hero calls $20

Flop: ($90.00) J J 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $60, SB calls $60, Hero calls $60

Turn: ($270.00) 6 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP bets $240, SB folds, Hero calls $240

River: ($750.00) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $929 all in

Final Pot: $750.00


Villain is pretty tight reg in terms of EP opening. Other player is a little more passive and could show up with a variety of PP here after his flop call. No special dynamic besides that third player in the hand does not respect my game much.

Looks like a fold to me. Your hand looks like what it is, villain shouldn't be expecting you to fold, so presumably he is valuebetting here, and if he is valuebetting your hand isn't that good. I would guess you have like 25% equity here vs his range.

Agree with Heilko here.

Your hand is pretty face up, as a jack.

The difference is you might have to call if you ever think villain can expect you to call turn with 77-TT, and can expect you to c/r a jack most of the time on the flop.

Just 1 thing.
What were your reasons for not c/raising the flop?

I don't like flatting flop, I think its too transparent to a rather narrow range that your hand is smack in the middle of. As a result you won't get a ton of value and it can be tough to play out pretty often. I'd rather c/r flop and go from there. (bluff c/r can be sexy here too!)

As played I'm not really sure on the river. I'd probably end up calling but wouldn't be too excited about it.

I feel like it's a waste of time to say I'd call, but I'd call. Of course I see the rationale for a fold, but you've played your hand so weakly. Even if he CAN put you on trips, he very easily COULD expect you to fold it since you obviously don't love your hand -- otherwise you would have put in more action somewhere...

Why would I put in more action somewhere?

Why would I put in more action somewhere?

NWF and DJS would and so would many players. And that's with this hand. If you had nut trips, I think people would be even more likely to put in more action earlier.

I don't see why you would play it any other way until river, I think the problem here might be that it's hard to balance this spot with stronger hands. I guess maybe sometimes you have 44, 66, 99? I'm fine with a fold here if you have AJ and full houses sometimes but otherwise I feel kind of gross (especially if you play with him often) since he's going to know exactly how bad he reamed you.

I would definitely play AJ and 44 this way, unlikely I call the flop with 66 and unlikely I call the turn with 99. I folded river.

I would definitely play AJ and 44 this way, unlikely I call the flop with 66 and unlikely I call the turn with 99. I folded river.

So why are you folding 66 to a flop bet but not 99?

They are basically the same hands and I really dont expect him to have many 7-8 hands in his range, and the fact is 8 and 7 are only 6 addititional outs if he has hands with a 8 or 7.

So why are you folding 66 to a flop bet but not 99?

They are basically the same hands and I really dont expect him to have many 7-8 hands in his range, and the fact is 8 and 7 are only 6 addititional outs if he has hands with a 8 or 7.

99 has blockers against J9 and it's better, so I might as well call with 99 instead of 66.

I'd fold this pretty quickly. You look like a J and his overbet is basically a stronger hand hoping to get called.

My instant response was call. However having read the posts i think you can probably fold here. Your overcall on the flop and call on the turn makes your hand look pretty strong. I doubt he is value betting any worse (j10? maybe but i very much doubt it) and hed have to have balls of steal to be bluffing here. This just isnt the sort of flop or situation where a player think "ill try and bluff two players off this hand on the turn".