zankaa
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so i played this hand today, sry for not having the HH but anyways.
I pick upp AA
It folds around to me in SB and i open to 30, BB call
Flop JT4o
i cbet 45 he calls
Turn 6o
i bet 120 he calls
river 9o
i bet 290 he jams 950
so the pot is like, 1.6k and its 660 for me to call.
the only history we have is we played HU for like 10min before i realized who he was, he playes up to 50/100 i think and he havent been to out of line in this 6max game ( about 50 hands )
So, i havent played to much vs player of this caliber but i figure he prob cant jam like a set here at 5/10 and show a profit since he seem to have a clean image etc. And if thats true, AA = set...
And i guess im a bit lost here cause the only hands he reps are KQ or 98 and I think he is good enough to know how strong this move looks.
Also, is it more of a call with say AA or KK than it is with JJ since now he can have more hands like QJ, KJ, AJ that he can turn into a bluff?
/ pontus
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BalugaWhale
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my initial thought is that nobody expects anyone to fold in these spots, he can definitely jam with a set here, its blind vs blind, youve been non-stop aggression, unless hes a suicidally aggressive guy, i cant see how this isnt just a fold.
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fslexcduck
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i think it's an easy fold and honestly i much prefer check calling a smallish bet and folding to a big one on the river. i dont think he expects you to bluff 3 with this board, but he might value cut himself with worse if you check (or turn a weak pair into a bluff)
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BalugaWhale
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bleh i dunno Vanessa, given we have AA there's not too many hands he has that v-cuts and he never turns a weak pair into a bluff at this point i think. but i could be wrong. in theory i like it though, or if we had QQ instead.
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1BYONE
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bleh i dunno Vanessa, given we have AA there's not too many hands he has that v-cuts and he never turns a weak pair into a bluff at this point i think. but i could be wrong. in theory i like it though, or if we had QQ instead.
just between brackets, what does v-cuts means?
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i think it's an easy fold and honestly i much prefer check calling a smallish bet and folding to a big one on the river. i dont think he expects you to bluff 3 with this board, but he might value cut himself with worse if you check (or turn a weak pair into a bluff)
checking the river is really bad without a read here, no way you should ever, ever be expecting anyone to turn a weak pair into a bluff without a read in this situation.
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fslexcduck
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well then i think check/folding is better in that case. do you really think one pair pays us off very often here? i feel like decent players expect us to 3 barrel bluff this board <5% of the time, and because of that, we're just going to value-own ourselves by betting this river.
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kolo
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well then i think check/folding is better in that case. do you really think one pair pays us off very often here? i feel like decent players expect us to 3 barrel bluff this board <5% of the time, and because of that, we're just going to value-own ourselves by betting this river.
my first though was check/decide based on sizing but not sure if I am just being results orientated
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hayes13
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checking the river is really bad without a read here, no way you should ever, ever be expecting anyone to turn a weak pair into a bluff without a read in this situation.
I just really like the how punctual this sentence is.
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ceegee
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In a tiurnament I can definitely agree that this is a check call, but in a cash game I think you would need a read that villain will value thin or take a stab at this hand. Too many hands call a bet but won't value imo
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