bones
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I think it's more than Eastgate's actual range is super weighted in favor of bad 2s rather than he just happened to have the 2nd nut low 2. All of the 2s besides A2 and I guess K2 (seems silly but who the fuck knows Tom's utg+1 pf range for sure) are gonna be in a gross spot.
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I watched this recently, I find the latest season of HSP very interesting.
I think Barry played it ok. I think Tom Dwann really got out of line tbh, but if he red that Barry and Eastgate were total pussy's then fine. But tbh, if I was playing vs Durrr I'd have studied the Poker After Dark cash game carefully and realise this guy bluffs. And has no problem placing big bets with marginal hands.
As for Eastgate, well his fold is bad. If he calls pf with a 2, and the board is 22x, he must stack off - otherwise fold PF. He is also very deep and vs an extremely fishy opponent such as Durr. Durr was shocked to see eastgate had A6 vs his 67 on 66x board, whereas for me it's fairly standard to see such an outcome playing online.
Barry played the hand fine, Durr was making a high variance move which paid off (so respect) and Eastgate was just awful. Also for Eastgate to give up information after the hand for a few Ks was terrible too. It just showed you, like Jamie Gold, that just because he's WSOP champion he doesn't have the experience or skill of some of the other players.
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Hielko
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I watched this recently, I find the latest season of HSP very interesting.
I think Barry played it ok. I think Tom Dwann really got out of line tbh, but if he red that Barry and Eastgate were total pussy's then fine. But tbh, if I was playing vs Durrr I'd have studied the Poker After Dark cash game carefully and realise this guy bluffs. And has no problem placing big bets with marginal hands.
As for Eastgate, well his fold is bad. If he calls pf with a 2, and the board is 22x, he must stack off - otherwise fold PF.
Nah, not really. I'm not going to say that preflop is great from him, but in this hand he's basically getting action from the only player he doesn't want to get action from because of stacksizes.
He is also very deep and vs an extremely fishy opponent such as Durr.
Lol, durr is everything except an extremly fishy opponent.
Durr was shocked to see eastgate had A6 vs his 67 on 66x board, whereas for me it's fairly standard to see such an outcome playing online.
Yeah, fairly standard at low stakes nitfests. Vs super aggro opponents such as durr he's leaving tons of value on the table by not playing a bigger pot.
Barry played the hand fine, Durr was making a high variance move which paid off (so respect) and Eastgate was just awful. Also for Eastgate to give up information after the hand for a few Ks was terrible too. It just showed you, like Jamie Gold, that just because he's WSOP champion he doesn't have the experience or skill of some of the other players.
Eastgate played nosebleeds before winning the wsop, and althoug he's certainly not the best player at those stakes he's certainly not a bad poker player.
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Just noticed the replies.
When I say Durr is fishy, I should quantify that more as fishy PF. Post flop he's very good obv.
I still say Eastgate is playing out of his depth, but I guess it doesn't matter if you've got plenty of $ to burn. He's made some obv mistakes at the table...I am unsure if he could beat NL400 FR long-term online, although he's not a bad player in general. I just don't think he's brilliant like Greenstein or Doyle. With coaching and experience I'm sure Eastgate could progress if he wanted to.
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I am unsure if he could beat NL400 FR long-term online, although he's not a bad player in general.
Dunno if you missed Krantz mention it, but he was playing and beating nosebleeds pre-wsop win, so I'm pretty sure he could beat $2/4 fullring at a good clip.
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Yeah I saw that comment from Krantz, but I'd like to see a big sample before saying he could definitely beat those stakes. I think you have to be sheer brilliance to play on HSP, and I don't think he's there yet...but if he wants to, I'm sure he could get there longterm.
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Yeah I saw that comment from Krantz, but I'd like to see a big sample before saying he could definitely beat those stakes. I think you have to be sheer brilliance to play on HSP, and I don't think he's there yet...but if he wants to, I'm sure he could get there longterm.
How do you think he got to play 10/20+ in the first place?
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