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shawn

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blinds 400/800

barry greenstien utg riases to 2500 with AA
tom dwan utg+1 calls with q-10cc
david benyamine calls with 33
eli elezra calls with j-9off
zigmond calls with 7-6off
daniel n calls with k-4dd from the button
peter eastgate calls from the sb with 4-2off
and doyle b calls from the bb with a-9 off

pot 21600 8 players

flop: 2c 10d 2s

barry greenstien bets 10,000
dwan raises to 37,300
action folds to eastgate in the sb who calls the 37,300
barry g calls 27,300 more

pot 133,500

turn: 7d

peter checks
barry checks
dwan bets 104,250

Interested to hear some coherent thoughts on this spot as it seems super duper sick. Eastgate is winner in the game up like 100k and Barry hasn't played a pot to this point. I think effective stacks v eastgate are like 1/2 mil and don't know how deep Barry was.

Posted about 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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I mean it's a pretty crazy bluff if Tom thinks Eastgate will fold a deuce here, which he should almost always have. With that said, Tom is crazy.

Posted about 4 years ago

shawn

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immediately following the hand he prop bet doyle 2 dimes that eastgate did in fact fold the best hand.

Posted about 4 years ago

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ThatDeviant

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I don't know how Eastgate folded trip deuces to the most agressive player at the table on a dry flop. Sick hand, regardless.

Posted about 4 years ago

AssontheRiver

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I think Eastgate was more afraid of Barry, who b/c the flop (btw terrible call by him imo), then Dwan.

That said I like Dwans play. On the flop it's very unlikely that someone has a really strong hand (he has a T in his hand, so there is just one combination of TT left), that can continue vs b+r, so he should take away the pot on the flop a fair amount of the time.
On the turn he's left behind with the two tightest players on the table and is giving himself ~1:1 odds that both don't have a nutlike hand.
Still pretty crazy, but their ranges should be pretty narrow in that spot.
Barry opened from UTG, so he's very unlikely to have a deuce, Peter was in the BB, so he can have some suited deuces, but no big pair.

Posted about 4 years ago

TheGeek

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I don't know how Eastgate folded trip deuces to the most agressive player at the table on a dry flop. Sick hand, regardless.



Because Durrrr's line is super, super strong, the only thing Eastgate can beat is a bluff, and he would have to put half a million dollars in the pot to find out if Dwan is bluffing or not. And he also probably doubts Dwan is so insane as to bluff in this spot and doesn't want to pay him off such a huge amount on TV when it really is very, very unlikely (or really should be very, very unlikely given the action) that Dwan is bluffing.

Absolutely awesome stuff from Dwan, perfect read on his opponents and the stones to follow his read to the tune of 100k.

Posted about 4 years ago

gpfs7

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2 10 2, of course its more of a chance its a bluff, if your that scared of pocket 10s you need to quit, especially when its against durrr

Posted about 4 years ago

TheGeek

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2 10 2, of course its more of a chance its a bluff, if your that scared of pocket 10s you need to quit, especially when its against durrr



But what the board is is secondary to what the action is. Despite what the board may say, Durrr has shown incredible strength throughout the hand. Eastgate isn't just afraid of Tens full, from his point of view, Durrr has to have at least a Deuce and Eastgate has got the second worst Deuce in the deck.

If you are playing against a super aggresive opponent like Durrr and decide to just call him down whenever you have a decent hand like trips in this case, you're playing into their hands as they'll just value bet you relentlessly with their strong hands and you've just decided you're going to pay them off because of their image.

If you think the hand through, from beginning to end, from each of the players points of view, you'll see why Durrr won the hand and why it was perfectly reasonable for Eastgate to fold.

Posted about 4 years ago

ClicktyClick

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I think most people neglect that they are like 250-600bb deep.

Posted about 4 years ago

bluepokerman

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http://pokerroad.com/radio/tips-from-the-bear/player/hsp-season-5-episode-2-aces-vs-dwan-and-eastgate




Very interesting listen sick how it played out and if Toms thinking was as Barry suggested then thats pretty impressive. I wonder how Tom would have played the river if Peter calls his turn bet. I can guess though...

Posted about 4 years ago

improva

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How would durrrr play TT, A2? I'm pretty sure he would at least think about just calling the flop. That said a call looks pretty strong too Smile

Posted about 4 years ago

ClicktyClick

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http://pokerroad.com/radio/tips-from-the-bear/player/hsp-season-5-episode-2-aces-vs-dwan-and-eastgate



It's pretty funny how berry gives a whole 10 pages text on what he thought on the flop while in reality he almost snapcalled dwan's raise.

Posted about 4 years ago

kdjohnson

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Eastgate is clearly playing with scared money. Its an easy call and he might not have to call off his whole stack to find out, theres no guarantee Durr will ship the river. Have you seen Durr play im pretty sure he would 3 bet 1010 pre flop. If eastgate is outkicked hes not dead as there are plenty of cards on the river which will improve his kicker.
true if Doyle Brunson or Ferguson raises and bets the turn like this you can fold but this is Durrrr he never has a hand (well almost never). If you are folding this what are you waiting for? quads?

Posted about 4 years ago

KRANTZ

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Ok I'm going to refute a lot of really bad points here... sorry guys :-)

Eastgate is clearly playing with scared money.



That's just not true, he made a weak play without really thinking it through but Eastgate played nosebleeds before he won the Main Event and after a multi-million dollar payday, he's going to be way less scared than he was before.

Also, I doubt Tom would ever 3-bet TT preflop (with regards to your other point).

and he would have to put half a million dollars in the pot to find out if Dwan is bluffing or not.



Not likely. I doubt Tom tries to move Peter off what is clearly 2x or better on the river. With that said, he's clearly capable of trying it... I'm just not so sure he does. Maybe he does more often here than he would if this was online because it's on TV and would be infinitely sicker if it worked out.

I think Eastgate was more afraid of Barry, who b/c the flop (btw terrible call by him imo), then Dwan.



Eastgate doesn't care about Barry, if anything he is happier that Barry is in the pot because it should protect him from being bluffed by Tom (in actuality it probably opens him up to a bluff at a higher frequency - I've played a lot of hands w/ Tom and he likes to make seemingly suicidal plays like this more than anyone else, considering no one ever tries anything like this. Barry almost always has QQ-AA here (and sometimes, sometimes TT).

Barry's flop call is fine, if I were in his shoes I would have been confused by Peter's call. Assuming he doesn't have much more than 200k to start the hand I'd be shipping the turn after Eastgate folds (albeit reluctantly since Peter folded quick and I prob wouldn't think he'd quickly muck trips). I'm not really sure how I feel about how bad Barry's fold is in a vacuum, I am sure that Peter's fold is horrible, and I am really sure that Tom's play is straight up nasty.

Posted about 4 years ago




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