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KK 3b pot, can i fold?


theRabidDoG

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http://www.pokerhand.org/?3948359

villain is pretty tight TAG running at 24/20. opening 17% of his hands from UTG and hes pretty tight vs my 3bets folding 75% to my 3bets over a large sample.

he also folds to approx 80% of cbets in 3bet pots. i havent caught him slow playing AA/KK/QQ ever so those hands are pretty unlikely.

i wouldnt be surprised to see him set mine here with small pp every now and then since stacks are deeper and he is IP vs what from his point of view looks like a very strong range (altho theres a bunch of suited connectors in my 3b range here).

we dont have any relevant meta game history in 3b pots.

Posted almost 3 years ago

theRabidDoG

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im gonna bump this bc i replied to a bunch of other old threads after i wrote this and it got pushed down to the bottom. sry about that...in the future ill reply to others threads before i post my own.

Posted almost 3 years ago

Goldeneye

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I think its clear fold here becouse i doubt he'll try to ever bluff this board.

Posted almost 3 years ago

improva

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Without a better postflop read we can't assume that he is out of line here too often. And if he is ever merging ranges in this spot you are dead (Our hand looks a like a bluff catcher).

Posted almost 3 years ago

kdjohnson

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Its prob a fold - if he is half decent and he is betting a genuine hand you are pretty much dead. So is he bluffing? - well i cant see many hands that would call the flop and need to bluff the river 5-7?
If you think hes tight hes prob not bluffing as tight players hate bluffing off double stacks.
i would fold and pat yourself on the back for not going bust.
As an aside i would prefer to bet the the turn here esp if you are going to call his bet anyway then at least you will define your hand better - if he has a set he will shove the turn as he doesnt want to see another diamond and you can fold.

Posted almost 3 years ago

MetRev

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How about just bet/calling turn if he's decently aggro? If "no", at which stack size would you guys not fold this hand.

Or do you "always" check turn? I'm not really a fan of check calling this turn.

Posted almost 3 years ago

Pure17

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I bet fold the turn, if he calls I'd consider turning my hand into a bluff and shipping the river. I'd love to know what the pro's think of that. Basically my thinking is that we can credibly rep AK the straight and anything less than a flush would have a hard time calling and even a smaller flush would have to think.

Posted almost 3 years ago

mgmfiend

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i don't really like c/c turn - what's that? you really hope smb @ 10\20 is incapable of betting turn and river as a bluff? if you had Kd - whatever, but w/o it, i can't see how c/c turn is ever good here

Posted almost 3 years ago

JammyJenny

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i don't really like c/c turn - what's that? you really hope smb @ 10\20 is incapable of betting turn and river as a bluff? if you had Kd - whatever, but w/o it, i can't see how c/c turn is ever good here



whats a good alternative? betsizing please.

Posted almost 3 years ago

KRANTZ

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mgmfiend

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actually, yeah, i take back that comment about turn c/c - it's fine, didn't really pay attention to the fact that it's UTG/BB all the awesomeness that ensues given their ranges

Posted almost 3 years ago




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