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Hi

i dont play these stacks, because of a huge fish took a shot.

Regular is helbuqtu fixed limit highstacks reg and plays everything/ everyone from 5k-20k nl
i know him but he sees me the first time
everytime the fish sitsout i sitout too,

he plays very aggressiv changes gears bla bla bla
cliffnotes he is good and runs people over he had about 50/30 stats
reraised my last 3 openraises

Q.: I dont feel comfortable 4 betting i asume he will 5 bet bluff and value push with the right freque.


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NL Holdem $20(BB) Replayer Game#2139721712

simones ($2,439)
($2,000)
whufcmk ($941)
sir_alex84 ($3,496)
BU ($5,529)
helbuqtu 2000 $
simones posts (SB) $10
helbuqtu posts (BB) $20

Dealt to BU A 9
fold, fold,
BU raises to $60
fold,
BB raises to $190
call,

FLOP ($390) K 9 4
check, check,

TURN ($390)K 9 4 7
BB bets $273
Bu calls $273

RIVER ($936) K 9 4 7 7
BB bets $586
Bu raises to $2,690

If you think he's 3betting so often here that you can call with trash like A9o preflop, I would just ship it pre. That's going to safe you a lot of postflop trouble and it for sure +ev.

thx, on the post flop play any thoughts ?
would have folded any non iamonds:

I really have no clue wtf you are doing on the river.

You have SD value vs a very wide range that includes a ton of bluffs. I dont see why you're turning it into a bluff. I would fold pre, but I like post-flop until the river where I would just call. Personally, I dont like to bluff players that are a lot better than me in 'obvious' spots...thats up to you though and has more to do with personal history.

i agree with previous posts your shove on the river seems odd. You have loads of showdown value plus what are you trying to represent? If i was him i would be thinking "you dont have a flush as you would bet the flop and youre not likely calling my 3 bet pre with a 7" Basically what are you trying to get him to fold here? 1010?

Also calling a 3 bet with a9 off is generally not advisable unless you have a clear plan for what you will do on the flop. If your only going to bet or call when an ace or 9 flops against an aggro opponent he will just take the pot away from you far too often. Plus what if you do hit an ace? Are you putting your stack in with it. I would only call with a9 if i had a good idea about what i was going to do on the flop if i missed (i.e. make a move). A small 4 bet pre is not a terrible play (effectively as a bluff)- it doesnt matter how good he is in my experience nobody likes getting 4 bet pre. If he 5 bets its prob a fold and you are unlucky if he calls and you hit an ace or 9 high flop play it very aggress and hope hes not trapping you. If you miss put a half pot bet in on the flop - if he pushes fold.
Just make sure when you have a nut hand you min 4 bet him as well.

riverplay is interesting plz explain what range you are putting him on and what hands of that range you want him to fold (that you are not beating anyway)

I really have no clue wtf you are doing on the river.

QFT hielko delivers.

@ riverplay wanted him to fold: TT JJ QQ KT KJ KQ? AK?
at the time i thought he would fold any king because he should see me as a weak player
and weak players dont bluff in this spot.

@ riverplay wanted him to fold: TT JJ QQ KT KJ KQ? AK?
at the time i thought he would fold any king because he should see me as a weak player
and weak players dont bluff in this spot.

lol why would he fold a king?
seems utterly ridiculous to me.

You never have 99,AA or a 7 as you bet flop with those and the only thing he is worried about is KK, and if he has a K that 1 combo of KK for you to have!

check/fold river or check/call it.

Not only that if he thinks you are a weak player he might think you saw the flush and went spastic....

you aren't repping a single hand

you aren't repping a single hand

Although the line is awful, I don't agree this is true. Even fairly conventional players can play the NFD this way, and possibly 77 or 7x, given that villain in the hand rarely has a flush here himself and has far less reason to have a 7 in his own range.