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Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by KRANTZ (High Stakes)

I didn't like the river shove on the AJdd hand because I don't think we are a favorite over the calling range on the river (that is the main assumption of a value bet right?). I would say it's not even close, when he calls we win 20% of the time maybe as a wild guess. When I was watching I did say to myself "There's no value in betting this river... when he calls we must be beat... and we are...".
FWF drew the attention out of the shove when villain turned up a rivered suckout, but imo that doesn't matter because he's not calling the river if he doesn't river 2 pair. It's not a fair assumption to consider that calling the flop and turn would commit the villain to call the river with the pair of Ts alone. You are betting 3 times into the preflop 3 better for 200bb total, do you really think he'll have worse than tptk more than 50% of the time when he calls the 3 streets? (even with favorable facts like CO vs BTN, good board for tptk...)
My alternative line is probably to c/f the river, I think it is close if we check and he shoves, but shoving ourselves to avoid this spot is not a good reason. I don't agree with FWF when he says that the shoving range of the villain is wider than the calling range. Villain is not calling 2 streets with that many draws, and a reasonable part of the calling range on the river are crying calls from hands that would check behind.
Where am I wrong?

Anyway very good video, probably the best in this series.

I didn't like the river shove on the AJdd hand because I don't think we are a favorite over the calling range on the river (that is the main assumption of a value bet right?). I would say it's not even close, when he calls we win 20% of the time maybe as a wild guess. When I was watching I did say to myself "There's no value in betting this river... when he calls we must be beat... and we are...".
FWF drew the attention out of the shove when villain turned up a rivered suckout, but imo that doesn't matter because he's not calling the river if he doesn't river 2 pair. It's not a fair assumption to consider that calling the flop and turn would commit the villain to call the river with the pair of Ts alone. You are betting 3 times into the preflop 3 better for 200bb total, do you really think he'll have worse than tptk more than 50% of the time when he calls the 3 streets? (even with favorable facts like CO vs BTN, good board for tptk...)
My alternative line is probably to c/f the river, I think it is close if we check and he shoves, but shoving ourselves to avoid this spot is not a good reason. I don't agree with FWF when he says that the shoving range of the villain is wider than the calling range. Villain is not calling 2 streets with that many draws, and a reasonable part of the calling range on the river are crying calls from hands that would check behind.
Where am I wrong?

Anyway very good video, probably the best in this series.

Jay's hand looks like nuts or nothing, and traheho is willing to back up reads with a decent amount of $. Not sure you can just say "he rarely peels draws twice" and "he doesn't call w/much worse" with as much confidence as you have here. But yeah, it is thin,

i disagree that it's thin, i'm getting called by alec by every one pair hand+ and sometimes ace high and don't think it's close (we have extensive history in 6m and HU games, if we didn't have that history it would be quite closer... still nowhere near only a 20% winner though)

Hey FWF, you started listing out adjustments make against light 3bettors IP, but didn't get further than #1 - Open tighter. What were the others?

Also, against the players that are 3betting IP constantly, as we tighten our opening range, is it also correct to widen our 4betting range (for value and bluffs)?

tighten up your opening range and widen your 4 betting range. Call rarely and go nutso on him when he 3 bets you.

One thing I think might be a mistake or im not getting. At one point fwf says that its +ev to still bet even when you are not a favorite as long as you have larger equity than the pots odds. Well you will still have positive equity in the situation but less than if you just checked.

Say there is 100 in the pot on the turn and we have 40% equity. We pot the turn in pos and he will always call and check river where we check behind. Betting has an expectation of (300 x .4) -100 = +20 whereas checking has 300 x .4 = +40. Maybe im misunderstanding what you meant.

One thing I think might be a mistake or im not getting. At one point fwf says that its +ev to still bet even when you are not a favorite as long as you have larger equity than the pots odds. Well you will still have positive equity in the situation but less than if you just checked.

Say there is 100 in the pot on the turn and we have 40% equity. We pot the turn in pos and he will always call and check river where we check behind. Betting has an expectation of (300 x .4) -100 = +20 whereas checking has 300 x .4 = +40. Maybe im misunderstanding what you meant.

yeah, this doesn't sound like what i said at all. i would never advocate a bet that you're not a favorite when called (on the river) if it's for value. i'm not quite sure what you're referring to, but tell me what time to listen to on the vid and i'll (hopefully) clarify

Awesome series , awesome final video. FWF you are my favorite commentator right now, there is so much good shiz I am going to have to start taking notes and hammering home the concepts you discuss.

meh, went over the vid quick and couldnt find it. I must have just misunderstood something or misheard. Good video, good explanations.

more love for rhyason's amazing reads in chat...

I think it's fair to say Jay has improved alot since this ;D