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Grabbed by Holdem Manager
NL Holdem $50(BB) Replayer
SB ($3,422)
BB ($4,692)
UTG ($3,544)
Hero ($1,597)
BTN ($3,215)

Dealt to Hero 8 8

fold, Hero raises to $150, fold, fold, BB calls $100

FLOP ($325) 3 6 9

[color=red]BB checks, Hero bets $200, BB raises to $600, Hero ?

Villain is the very winning 4th an 1 on FTP. He did not seem to be affraid to put all his chips in the pot thin. Played back a lot. I had cbet him a lot and he had folded so far. I had been playing LAGGY PF at this table, instead of my usual nitty style. What is the plan here?

I think checkback or bet/call were ur options here otf
I slightly favour the later.

Or you could bet/3bet if your name is durrrr

I did 3bet. And Durrrr, I like his style. I look through a lot of his hands. These CAP games are giving me a hard time. As well are shallow. And often on FTP that is the action above 5/10. And I am trying to move up, so I better learn how to play these less than 100bb buy in games.

It is a tough spot to stack off with TP or not. Many people are like 3x PF open. Then a guy shoves AI for 30bb. And then it is called. One guy shows up with A7o and the other shows up with AJo. And they adjust really fast and good at 25/50 as well. So playing my ton of tables buts me at disadvantage.

fwiw I think I prefere the bet/3bet line otf much more deep in a non cap game.

Tough spot. id prob donk it in but not feel that great about it. Reasons are there are a lot of straight and flush draws and he could have also a6, 77. Folding also isnt that terrible.
Just a note i think the optimal raise in these games pre is minimum i.e. to 100 pre, When you open to 150 opponents cant really 3 bet you then fold to a shove pre - which occasionally does happen. Also if you open to 100 pot is 250 on flop - you can then c bet 100 then if oppos raises you could call without being pot committed on flop or fold and get away cheaper. By raising to 150 pre you are now in a all in or fold situation.
Secondly when you open with trash you get a cheaper price on your steals.

Tough spot. id prob donk it in but not feel that great about it. Reasons are there are a lot of straight and flush draws and he could have also a6, 77. Folding also isnt that terrible.
Just a note i think the optimal raise in these games pre is minimum i.e. to 100 pre, When you open to 150 opponents cant really 3 bet you then fold to a shove pre - which occasionally does happen. Also if you open to 100 pot is 250 on flop - you can then c bet 100 then if oppos raises you could call without being pot committed on flop or fold and get away cheaper. By raising to 150 pre you are now in a all in or fold situation.
Secondly when you open with trash you get a cheaper price on your steals.

Regarding PF sizing.

1) I like the post flop reasoning a lot.

2) The preflop reasoning. Why not take advantage, that they can not effective 3b bluff us? I would think this is an advantage. Because then we can more comfortable fold when they do 3b us. Which means we can widen our preflop opening range when making it 150.

3) An added reason to preflop reasoning to why many very winning players do min raise pre flop. Could that have something to do with, that when we min raise pre flop, and they 3b pot bet us. Then we have the obtion to 4b them AI with out them coming over the top?