Time Link to 00:04:19
Off-topic but how is it possible to have different card mods for different tables during one session?
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Time Link to 00:04:19
Off-topic but how is it possible to have different card mods for different tables during one session?
Off-topic but how is it possible to have different card mods for different tables during one session?
I think the bottom two tables are slightly smaller than the top two. Full Tilt switches to different cards with larger card ranks as tables get smaller.
Time Link to 00:06:52
You say you can call deep for set value, because:
a. Your opponent might bluff and you get value
b. Your opponent might be capable of betting for thin value
So, against this opponent this should be a fold?
He is the guy that checked as the PFR on a KKQr board, so that would tell me that he can't bet thinly or is capable of making bluffs?
Time Link to 00:24:26
Hi Andrew,
I really respect your thoughts on poker and your videos have helped shape the way I conceptualize the game these days. Tubasteve has coached me, and I believe you have coached him-- so I feel like I am a twice removed student of yours, of sorts. Thanks for all your hard work and for sharing it with the DC and 2+2 communities.
I'm having trouble understanding the 88 hand with your plan here to bet the turn small when checked to after spiking the set. In the actual hand, the villain does 2barrel, so we don't really get to see this hypothetical spot play out in practice, but I still want to understand.
Before, you were playing against jigga_man in a 3-bet pot on the same table where you floated in position as a semi-bluff/capitalization of dead money. You have AhJh, flat his cbet on KhTh2d, and bet 225 into 422 on the turn bringing Td after he checks. Sweet. Your logic here was to bet small with the view that if you do make a bunch of dead money (ie betting too big), he can c/ship the turn to make a rebluff/semi-bluff way more +ev versus your range... and you don't want to put yourself in that position with the AhJh. So you opt for a smaller bet, and he c/f, which was cool.
Here you have 88 on T32 vs the guy who doesn't top off, 8 turn also bringing 2 suits, and you are inclined to bet small to get him to spazz.
I'm wondering why bet small vs jigga for folds and bet small vs jonas for spazzes? Board texture? Reads? This seems like a similar spot, but I must be wrong?
Thank you for expanding your thoughts on this and the other concepts people are working hard on understanding. It's these hypothetical what-if situations that really improve my thought process, personally.
Thanks again,
John
You say you can call deep for set value, because:
a. Your opponent might bluff and you get value
b. Your opponent might be capable of betting for thin value
So, against this opponent this should be a fold?
He is the guy that checked as the PFR on a KKQr board, so that would tell me that he can't bet thinly or is capable of making bluffs?
certainly that read would incline me to fold, but i wouldnt take a read given me being IP in a raised pot necessarily to have enormous significant in a 3bet pot OOP when 200bb deep. While you're right that, if he's not v aggressive, its not a good call, i still think this guy is pretty aggressive esp in position.
Andrew
Hi Andrew,
I really respect your thoughts on poker and your videos have helped shape the way I conceptualize the game these days. Tubasteve has coached me, and I believe you have coached him-- so I feel like I am a twice removed student of yours, of sorts. Thanks for all your hard work and for sharing it with the DC and 2+2 communities.
I'm having trouble understanding the 88 hand with your plan here to bet the turn small when checked to after spiking the set. In the actual hand, the villain does 2barrel, so we don't really get to see this hypothetical spot play out in practice, but I still want to understand.
Before, you were playing against jigga_man in a 3-bet pot on the same table where you floated in position as a semi-bluff/capitalization of dead money. You have AhJh, flat his cbet on KhTh2d, and bet 225 into 422 on the turn bringing Td after he checks. Sweet. Your logic here was to bet small with the view that if you do make a bunch of dead money (ie betting too big), he can c/ship the turn to make a rebluff/semi-bluff way more +ev versus your range... and you don't want to put yourself in that position with the AhJh. So you opt for a smaller bet, and he c/f, which was cool.
Here you have 88 on T32 vs the guy who doesn't top off, 8 turn also bringing 2 suits, and you are inclined to bet small to get him to spazz.
I'm wondering why bet small vs jigga for folds and bet small vs jonas for spazzes? Board texture? Reads? This seems like a similar spot, but I must be wrong?
Thank you for expanding your thoughts on this and the other concepts people are working hard on understanding. It's these hypothetical what-if situations that really improve my thought process, personally.
Thanks again,
John
if im remembering correctly here, i'm betting for value both times, one of them just happens to be much thinner than the other. so, in short, im taking a balanced bet size that works for my bluffs, thin v bets, and nonthin v-bets.
That answer?
Andrew
certainly that read would incline me to fold, but i wouldnt take a read given me being IP in a raised pot necessarily to have enormous significant in a 3bet pot OOP when 200bb deep. While you're right that, if he's not v aggressive, its not a good call, i still think this guy is pretty aggressive esp in position.
Andrew
Doesnt a read like you had in the raised pot tell you something about how he is going to play in a 3-bet pot?
Like, hm, example: How he played in that single raised pot made him more a passive player rather than somebody that goes out of line a lot?
Or are this really two different worlds where we need to be careful with a read like that when we enter the world of 3-betting/4-betting?
Doesnt a read like you had in the raised pot tell you something about how he is going to play in a 3-bet pot?
Like, hm, example: How he played in that single raised pot made him more a passive player rather than somebody that goes out of line a lot?
Or are this really two different worlds where we need to be careful with a read like that when we enter the world of 3-betting/4-betting?
i mean, yes and no. yes in the sense of, i have a read that in this spot he plays more passively than i'd expect. no in the sense of, i still consider him to be an aggressive player and if he plays passively in other spots where i'd expect aggression then i'd need to expand my read.
basically just saying that a read in one spot can affect a read in others, but doesn't dictate it.
Andrew
Time Link to 00:11:19
When you bet half pot on table 2 on the turn, are you still priced in if he check raises? Do you choose the same bet size every time you bet the turn or how much would you bet with a low flush draw?
i mean, yes and no. yes in the sense of, i have a read that in this spot he plays more passively than i'd expect. no in the sense of, i still consider him to be an aggressive player and if he plays passively in other spots where i'd expect aggression then i'd need to expand my read.
basically just saying that a read in one spot can affect a read in others, but doesn't dictate it.
Andrew
I think I understand what you mean, thank you
When you bet half pot on table 2 on the turn, are you still priced in if he check raises? Do you choose the same bet size every time you bet the turn or how much would you bet with a low flush draw?
without a specific read otherwise id probably make it roughly that size w/ my whole range.
Great job so far, this series has been really good. Just one thing -
in a situation where on the river we have the nut full house and our opponent either has the 2nd nut FH or quads, we will have the best hand 75% of the time. If he's stacking w/ both (and obv, we should assume he is), then this is clearly not a break even situation.
Great job so far, this series has been really good. Just one thing -
in a situation where on the river we have the nut full house and our opponent either has the 2nd nut FH or quads, we will have the best hand 75% of the time. If he's stacking w/ both (and obv, we should assume he is), then this is clearly not a break even situation.
clearly you're right, clearly that's also not my point ![]()
Andrew
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