Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by threads13 (Micro/Small Stakes)

Tolerance: Episode One

Threads13 gets into the winrate and math behind it and demonstrates how variance can affect it.

Variance is huge in poker and it can drastically slow down the learning process. This series is split into two parts: 1) Identify variance and explaining the fundamental mathematics of variance. 2) Shifting the focus to learning (instead of results) and maximizing our learning.

Video Details

• Game:
• Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
• 48 minutes long
• Posted about 6 years ago

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Sugar Nut

842 posts
Joined 03/2008

Very nice work sir. The only thing I found a bit strange was the guy referred to as "The Dude," was in a pic with viscous, white, gunk dripping from his mouth. Everything else was awesome.

Yeah? Well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion man!

Prologion

2093 posts
Joined 03/2010

First of all, I am very glad that I have decided to watch this series - I think this will be an epic series

small poll@all:
I am more or less a 4bb/100-winner over 350k hands - but my Standarddeviation/100 is about 77bb/100hands.
And what can a larger deviation mean regards to similar WRs?
Just that you choose high Variance-spots?

Prologion

2093 posts
Joined 03/2010

small correction: S.D. should be square root of 4900000 = around 2214bb

MoNteiRoZor

9 posts
Joined 01/2009

Absolutly great series. Nice first video.

z324739

Section 9
382 posts
Joined 03/2008

Very very good, just what Doctor ordered. Shud be mandatory watch in DC, lol...

Steppin Razor

Section 9
2237 posts
Joined 12/2009

I didn't even know how much I wanted to see a series about this until I watched this ep. Thx.

criuzer13

119 posts
Joined 06/2010

Wait, how does the variance per hand end up being 36? If the St Dev per hand is .6 (60/100 hands), shouldn't the variance be .36 per hand?

3232 posts
Joined 03/2008

Wait, how does the variance per hand end up being 36? If the St Dev per hand is .6 (60/100 hands), shouldn't the variance be .36 per hand?

You can't take the standard deviation per 100 hands and simply divide by 100 to get the standard deviation per 100 hands. You can do that with the variance, which is why we start by squaring the standard deviation to get 3600(60^=3600). So, the variance per 100 is 3600. Then divide by 100 to get the variance per hand of 36. Then we can get back to the standard deviation by taking the square root. This is how the standard deviation is 6.

criuzer13

119 posts
Joined 06/2010

Oh ok, makes more sense. Related question just to clarify, in Hold'em Manager is the St Dev in bb per 100 hands? It seems like it is, but as opposed to bb/100, they don't actually mark it as per 100 so I wanted to make sure.

3232 posts
Joined 03/2008

Oh ok, makes more sense. Related question just to clarify, in Hold'em Manager is the St Dev in bb per 100 hands? It seems like it is, but as opposed to bb/100, they don't actually mark it as per 100 so I wanted to make sure.

Yeah, it's per 100. They have it as big blinds (bb) and big bets (BB).

TecmoSuperBowl

5690 posts
Joined 01/2009

Just finished this (finally) and I can see why it got such good reviews. Very solid content and professionally done as well. Far more preparation went into this than the average video and it shows.

Tackleberry

3561 posts
Joined 10/2009

I have a (maybe) dumb question but it keeps me busy already quite some time: my S.D. is around 90-95bb / 100 (over like 200k hands). From all I heard this seems to be quite high.

1) Is this right?

2) Can we derive any assumptions (or at least indicators) for my play from that (i.e. too fancy, to bluffy, too bluffcatchy, valuebetting too little, going to SD too often, not protecting enought)?

Thx!

3232 posts
Joined 03/2008

I have a (maybe) dumb question but it keeps me busy already quite some time: my S.D. is around 90-95bb / 100 (over like 200k hands). From all I heard this seems to be quite high.

1) Is this right?

2) Can we derive any assumptions (or at least indicators) for my play from that (i.e. too fancy, to bluffy, too bluffcatchy, valuebetting too little, going to SD too often, not protecting enought)?

Thx!

Yes, that seems a bit high to me. I haven't personally seen any 6-max or FR stats that high before. I don't think I can say why it is so high other than you are making some high variance plays.

Mixtress

35 posts
Joined 12/2008

Excellent video... gonna crack on with episode two... but before I do, I can safely say I ran good tonight with some positive variance lol

Quietman1970

9 posts
Joined 04/2010

I just wanted to join the amen corner and say that this is an outstanding video. The information is vital and the presentation was first rate.

Great job sir!

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