Joe Tall
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So if were check raising a naked AA, against his probably two pair but possible flush, then does that mean we should probably call with our two pair if he bet/3bets us, but obviously fold when we just had the Aces? I am not sure if that just seems a little too optimistic, but against a smart aggressive player who can turn his smaller two pair into a bluff, it seems like the pots so big we should call even a b/3b. Thanks for your thoughts, good video!
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Fwiw Joe, I owned you really hard on the flop here with 85, and THIS is the reason you shouldn't be 3betting this hand (or any hand really on this board texture), especially against a player like me.
2 points: 1. You'r e waiting for the turn with some portion of your very strongest hands. I know this. I also know you're threebetting hands like this so I can cap lead a relatively wide range very successfully against you.
2. You do much better preserving your implied odds in this spot and inducing bluffs. Not only will I not give you credit for a straight (JoeTall always fastplays his straight draws ldo), you'll pick up all those bets when I barrel whatever random draw or non-draw air that I decided to c/r with.
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Joe Tall
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Fwiw Joe, I owned you really hard on the flop here with 85, and THIS is the reason you shouldn't be 3betting this hand (or any hand really on this board texture), especially against a player like me.
2 points: 1. You'r e waiting for the turn with some portion of your very strongest hands. I know this. I also know you're threebetting hands like this so I can cap lead a relatively wide range very successfully against you.
2. You do much better preserving your implied odds in this spot and inducing bluffs. Not only will I not give you credit for a straight (JoeTall always fastplays his straight draws ldo), you'll pick up all those bets when I barrel whatever random draw or non-draw air that I decided to c/r with.
Good stuff. However, it's impossible to 'own' someone when your equity is coin flipping. If my bets go in at 50/50, they go in at 50/50. Not raising for your other points makes great sense.
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Joe Tall
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I made queens up here. How'd I do?
Perfect. Had you made 5s up, you should raise 4th as
1. your hand is obv quite vulnerable
2. your board looks like straight draw where you hold deception
3. vs my possible flush draw or if I do actually have a pair, your equity is good (not great)
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Any made T is a favourite here over your draw + J high.
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
A28T6T 55.90% 872 0
234KaJ 44.10% 688 0
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
578T6T 60.13% 938 0
234KaJ 39.87% 622 0
However, his spot is really shitty here if he is paired because he "has to" raise you or reveal his hand strength and allow you to easily call any river bet/bet for value really accurately.
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