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It's a Tall World After All: Episode Two

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It's a Tall World After All: Episode Two by Joe Tall

This week Joe Tall plays DCs HULHE coach, OnTheRail, watch them try to level each other as Joe breaks down the action live.

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Joe Tall plays HU Horse. He takes mixed games to the extreme in this series where he faces off against a single opponent and talks of the differences between full and HU games.

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joe tall it's a small world after all mixed game hu horse horse nlhe lhe razz stud stud hi omaha ontherail15

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  • Game: Mixed
  • Stakes: Micro/Small Stakes
  • 58 minutes long
  • Posted almost 2 years ago

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Joe Tall

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http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/2631-Episode-Two?seek=523

Without knowing OTRs hand, he should raise me here, that gives him all the spade outs on 6st usually. Now, I have two pair here and it will not work but most of the time I will not have two pair and it will.

Posted over 2 years ago

Joe Tall

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http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/2631-Episode-Two?seek=546

I talk about the river concepts here: http://www.deucescracked.com/videos/2031-Episode-Eight

I would also c/r naked A/A here as Jeremy should fold a two pair here most of the time.

Posted over 2 years ago

4CardStrate

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So if were check raising a naked AA, against his probably two pair but possible flush, then does that mean we should probably call with our two pair if he bet/3bets us, but obviously fold when we just had the Aces? I am not sure if that just seems a little too optimistic, but against a smart aggressive player who can turn his smaller two pair into a bluff, it seems like the pots so big we should call even a b/3b. Thanks for your thoughts, good video!

4Card

Posted over 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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Time Link to 00:01:35

fwiw not standard for me. Your c/c range should probably include some hands you can show down easily, otherwise a smart aggressive opponent is going to put you into a lot of really difficult spots oop.

Posted over 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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OnTheRail15

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Time Link to 00:18:14

3betting 2 pair there seems pretty thin. I'd have to stove it, but it seemed like an snap just call to me, especially since one of your most likely draws is completed by the 4. The 4 also doesn't make you a ton of worse two pairs.

Posted over 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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Time Link to 00:30:57

Fwiw Joe, I owned you really hard on the flop here with 85, and THIS is the reason you shouldn't be 3betting this hand (or any hand really on this board texture), especially against a player like me.

2 points: 1. You'r e waiting for the turn with some portion of your very strongest hands. I know this. I also know you're threebetting hands like this so I can cap lead a relatively wide range very successfully against you.

2. You do much better preserving your implied odds in this spot and inducing bluffs. Not only will I not give you credit for a straight (JoeTall always fastplays his straight draws ldo), you'll pick up all those bets when I barrel whatever random draw or non-draw air that I decided to c/r with.

Posted over 2 years ago

Joe Tall

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Fwiw Joe, I owned you really hard on the flop here with 85, and THIS is the reason you shouldn't be 3betting this hand (or any hand really on this board texture), especially against a player like me.

2 points: 1. You'r e waiting for the turn with some portion of your very strongest hands. I know this. I also know you're threebetting hands like this so I can cap lead a relatively wide range very successfully against you.

2. You do much better preserving your implied odds in this spot and inducing bluffs. Not only will I not give you credit for a straight (JoeTall always fastplays his straight draws ldo), you'll pick up all those bets when I barrel whatever random draw or non-draw air that I decided to c/r with.



Good stuff. However, it's impossible to 'own' someone when your equity is coin flipping. If my bets go in at 50/50, they go in at 50/50. Not raising for your other points makes great sense.

Posted over 2 years ago

Joe Tall

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I made queens up here. How'd I do?



Perfect. Had you made 5s up, you should raise 4th as

1. your hand is obv quite vulnerable
2. your board looks like straight draw where you hold deception
3. vs my possible flush draw or if I do actually have a pair, your equity is good (not great)

Posted over 2 years ago

jjd323

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Time Link to 00:38:38

Pretty sure that this is just a call on the river, especially if you are calling the 4-bet. It's pretty hard to imagine he is check-raising & calling with an 8 or a worse 7 twice as often as he has a better hand than you have here.

Posted over 2 years ago

jjd323

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Time Link to 00:41:29

Any made T is a favourite here over your draw + J high.

Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
A28T6T 55.90% 872 0
234KaJ 44.10% 688 0

Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
578T6T 60.13% 938 0
234KaJ 39.87% 622 0

However, his spot is really shitty here if he is paired because he "has to" raise you or reveal his hand strength and allow you to easily call any river bet/bet for value really accurately.

Posted over 2 years ago

OnTheRail15

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Time Link to 00:35:04

I decided to not threebet anything preflop at some point in the match... why doesn't this lhe concept work in 08?

Posted over 2 years ago




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