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frist...?
edit: I just made me a bacon sandwich to celebrate this glorious feat
awsome series, can't wait to watch this!
darn i'm at work and already watched a vid during working hours
really looking forward to this vid though!
this one I just have to listen, the table mod and client is so uggly and busy it is giving me headache.
I'm going to start watching this right now.
Remember this one? "Your momma's so dumb it takes her 2 hours to watch '60 minutes'" Well, I'm not yo mamma, but I had to rewind so many times to grasp all this content it took me about...well... 2 hours. Really great stuff....
Wanted to say that this is best series I have ever seen. I am a recreational player at ssnl. It has not been much fun since legislation. This series has opened my mind to a whole new approach and it has been fun again. I am not sure if it is the format, the teachers, or combination that is perfect for a player like me. I like how Baluga questions standard plays. Sometimes he corrects which is great. However, I like how even if he is asking rhetorically, he wants to get Tuba and us a viewers to think deeper behind the correct plays as well. Keep up the great work and I hope to see more from Baluga in the future.
I have a question about 3-betting OOP. You mentioned in Episode 2 that 3-betting OOP (for preflop image) against a light stealer who calls much 3-bets IP we also need a playable hand postflop to create postflop image, so any ace-rag suited, SC's or high card hands.
In this episode you mentioned that 3-betting with T9s was not good, bc the hand has much postflop value, so I am right that against people who folds much 3-bets IP it is better just to flat call to get much of that hand postflop?
gbucks is from phil galfond, not wiltontilt
http://www.bluffmagazine.com/magazine/%27G-Bucks%27-Conceptualizing-Money-Matters.-Phil-Galfond-985.htm
here is the link to the article for anyone that hasn't seen it
really like the video
Hey tuba/baluga (wow this rhymes
once again to the T9s hand which you prefer flat calling by far (at least it sounded like that).
You said that this hand has much more value postflop than preflop.
Although i agree i want to state that one of the biggest "parts" of postflop value the implied odds are.
I'm sure you can play it profitable OOP, nevertheless i think that you don't have such great implied odds vs. a BU opener (he was like 18/16, so a button steal of 30 or more is very likely). In addition your opponent MUST be weak/tight-passive as the aggressor postflop to make calling profitable (otherwise you'll often get into marginal situation where you have to fold often (e.g. Overcards are on the board/ he calls your c/r...). So, as long as you don't have a fishy opener who goes crazy with his TP your value actually comes from "stealing" the pots postflop. Why don't we just 3bet then? If his postflop tendencies in 3bet pots are similar to what they are in raised pots you can make a lot (more) BB by 3betting+cbetting him.
In the end i like to state that i'm not critizing your call, however, you should consider 3betting as well as it can be much more profitable than calling. (This is the case when a call is only slightly +EV - which by the way is often when calling OOP - and you get more value by bluffing your opponent: he folds lot to 3bets/cbets).
As you can see the situation is - oh wonder - very often much more important than the cards itself. (you'll probably say that i could 3bet w/ any 2 then, like it was mentioned in dozens of threads. However, you can only defend your blinds to a certain degree, otherwise they would play back at you too often. Now it's up to you if you want to use T9s in a 3bet pot or 75o).
I like your series much but i love discussing these spots even more. I hope both of you will comment my thoughts as im really putting much effort in making the best decisions.
-cobby
hey cobby--
against somebody who plays badly against 3-bets, i agree that we should be 3-betting/c-betting to take advantage of that.
but let me ask you this then--
against a player who will play bad postflop and preflop
your hands are:
AQ
A6s
T9s
imo each of these is easy to play preflop. im not denying that 3-betting T9s could be more profitable in vacuum, but try to think about the game on the whole; if 3-betting is profitable with T9s, it probably is with J4s, but we can't 3-bet both every time.
see what you can make of that
gbucks is from phil galfond, not wiltontilt
http://www.bluffmagazine.com/magazine/%27G-Bucks%27-Conceptualizing-Money-Matters.-Phil-Galfond-985.htm
here is the link to the article for anyone that hasn't seen it
really like the video
did i say it was from WOT? cause i def knew 100% before this vid that its phil galfond. i think i referenced WoT's video where he goes over Gbucks.
Another fantastic vid. I love this series! I am looking forward to the move up in stakes to msnl as the players are faced with more 3-bets. Also, I thought corsakh played pretty damned well, just from his ssnl posts alone I knew he was good. I'm honestly surprised he's not already playing mid-stakes himself, although I'm sure you guys have him on his way.
hey cobby--
against somebody who plays badly against 3-bets, i agree that we should be 3-betting/c-betting to take advantage of that.
but let me ask you this then--
against a player who will play bad postflop and preflop
your hands are:
AQ
A6s
T9s
imo each of these is easy to play preflop. im not denying that 3-betting T9s could be more profitable in vacuum, but try to think about the game on the whole; if 3-betting is profitable with T9s, it probably is with J4s, but we can't 3-bet both every time.
see what you can make of that
I'm sure it is profitable w/ J4s vs. the right player.
I'm thinking about the game on the whole; i think this should have been very clear after you read my post with all the variables i took into consideration. So yeah we cant bet J4s and T9s at both times. If we 3bet AK-AJ/TT+/KQ for value, what would you like to 3bet? T9s or J4s (btw. i love 3betting suited aces in the blinds, but that was not the point i was adressing - which was that you need specific circumstances to make T9s more profitable calling than 3betting (see above))
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