Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by BigBadBabar (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:00:47

lol wat.

lol wat.

Playing while on the ceiling for balance purposes obv

Time Link to 00:18:48

you chop here vs all other queens.

i dont know if that changes your analysis, but i feel like there is very little value out of a river bet unless you think he folds a queen

villain is loose, but he still doesnt have that many 2x in his range.. probably only like Q2 K2 A2 (you only beat one of those). The 9 makes sense, but also probably pretty discounted, as he can only really have J9 T9 that you beat that make sense.
His mostly likely hand is Qx, and you either chop or lose when you bet.. so lets pretend that the chop doesnt matter:

we beat A2, J9, T9
We lose QT QJ

I honestly think that the likelyhood of him having QJ/QT is way more than the other 3 combos

i havent seen the conclusion of this hand, so maybe you get into it, or maybe he shows down 77 or something.. which i guess could make some sense, but not really.

Time Link to 00:20:33

you talka bout not capping preflop oop. i like this as it disguises our range obviously.

multiway, with this exact hand, its still just a call?
say the btn takes 3 to the face or one of the blinds call.

Time Link to 00:24:44

i like considering a fold on the river. its a super disaster for us and the average FRers tight 3bet range. i need a read that villain 3bets light/often or that they hate me and attack my opens (because we are playing pretty loosygoosy)

although we still beat 99 and TT, we have to discount that they will bet the river here a lot. we also have to discount that they 3bet the flop here.

we really don't beat any hand that makes sense here. we can call because we think villain is a goofyballer, but other than that we chop or lose

EDIT: now that i've looked at the results, i think its not insignificant that we dont have a heart and that the Q isnt a heart. AQs is a more likely 3bet than AQo (maybe im wrong about that) so the AQs combo is AQhh.. there is no other AQs that is available.

you chop here vs all other queens.

i dont know if that changes your analysis, but i feel like there is very little value out of a river bet unless you think he folds a queen

villain is loose, but he still doesnt have that many 2x in his range.. probably only like Q2 K2 A2 (you only beat one of those). The 9 makes sense, but also probably pretty discounted, as he can only really have J9 T9 that you beat that make sense.
His mostly likely hand is Qx, and you either chop or lose when you bet.. so lets pretend that the chop doesnt matter:

we beat A2, J9, T9
We lose QT QJ

I honestly think that the likelyhood of him having QJ/QT is way more than the other 3 combos

i havent seen the conclusion of this hand, so maybe you get into it, or maybe he shows down 77 or something.. which i guess could make some sense, but not really.

lol, i love reading boards

right at the end of my analysis in the video i finally realize we have 3 pair and not a playing kicker, but i still think it's a bet. did i end up getting into it any more at all? i'm pretty sure i did but if not i can go over it again no problem

you talka bout not capping preflop oop. i like this as it disguises our range obviously.

multiway, with this exact hand, its still just a call?
say the btn takes 3 to the face or one of the blinds call.

yeah as far as not capping hu oop (or 3betting), those ideas have been out for a while (i believe deathdonkey was first or one of the first to talk about/implement it?) and it's fairly predominant these days in 6m games as far as i can tell. most folks are familiar with the concept at least, even if they don't do it. in huhu i think most ppl just cap or 3bet or whatever. in fr, a lot of the fr-specific players, especially nits, do cap but only a narrow and imbalanced range, so it's pretty useful info. since i play a lot of 6m i tend just to carry that over in fr and don't cap really unless i have a reason to.

multiway i don't disguise, obviously - i just aim to get pf value. aqo i'm not sure if it's an instacap tbh - would have to depend on the 3b range of the first guy and just how loose the 2nd guy is. like obv co open vs btn 3bet, bb takes 2, i have an easy valuecap. utg open, nitty btn 3bets, nitty sb takes 2.5, meh gotta be not so attractive now.

care to stove out some possibilities?

i like considering a fold on the river. its a super disaster for us and the average FRers tight 3bet range. i need a read that villain 3bets light/often or that they hate me and attack my opens (because we are playing pretty loosygoosy)

although we still beat 99 and TT, we have to discount that they will bet the river here a lot. we also have to discount that they 3bet the flop here.

we really don't beat any hand that makes sense here. we can call because we think villain is a goofyballer, but other than that we chop or lose

EDIT: now that i've looked at the results, i think its not insignificant that we dont have a heart and that the Q isnt a heart. AQs is a more likely 3bet than AQo (maybe im wrong about that) so the AQs combo is AQhh.. there is no other AQs that is available.

yeah, this is very similar to my thought process and analysis as i was going over it with the voiceover. i think maybe i didn't think about my line for the hand as much as i should have while i was at the table. at least we see it in retropect!

lol wat.

wut

Time Link to 00:03:47

I don't see how this is close between 3-betting and folding in middle position in a full ring game. I fold this 100%.

I don't see how this is close between 3-betting and folding in middle position in a full ring game. I fold this 100%.

which hand, the KTo? i think folding is fine certainly. i think in the voiceover i tried to lay out my case for 3betting, which included some things like: he seems laggy, he's shortish-stacked, we are getting near the button, i think i might be able to play a bit better than him postflop, i am in position, etc. thoughts? i also talked about some hands i would 100% 3bet such as KQo and KJs and then i tried to talk about how when i have a hand that is reasonably near a hand i "always" do something with (ie open) that it can't always be the opposite thing imo (in this case a fold).

i mean we certainly can agree that there has to be a situation when this is an automatic 3bet, right? for example the guy is opening all hands for the last 3 hours.

Time Link to 00:36:06

You say that the average player doesnt ch/call here with a lot of stuff, but from my experience they seem to hate folding flops but love folding turns.

Whether that leans me more towards a valuebet/merging bet on the turn or a check back and considering making a pretty big KQ call down, im not sure... but a pretty average fold to cbet in my games is like 30%

edit: you address this thought process...

i agree with you that i have no idea what the right move is

Time Link to 00:53:47

utg+1 you open the QTs
but the very next hand you fold ATo utg.

comments?

I think ATo is usually an open for me... is it an obvious open if its ATs?

utg and utg+1 are pretty similar positions at a full table seeing as we can expect utg (when we are utg+1) to be super tight and we are looking to get through almost the same field in both hands.

I feel like AT plays at least as well if not better than QT does against cold callers... seeing as we are dominately less often with AT vs a cc

against a 3better i feel just as gross with both hands.

I dunno though =)

which hand, the KTo? i think folding is fine certainly. i think in the voiceover i tried to lay out my case for 3betting, which included some things like: he seems laggy, he's shortish-stacked, we are getting near the button, i think i might be able to play a bit better than him postflop, i am in position, etc. thoughts? i also talked about some hands i would 100% 3bet such as KQo and KJs and then i tried to talk about how when i have a hand that is reasonably near a hand i "always" do something with (ie open) that it can't always be the opposite thing imo (in this case a fold).

i mean we certainly can agree that there has to be a situation when this is an automatic 3bet, right? for example the guy is opening all hands for the last 3 hours.

I guess I am a huge nit but I routinely fold KTo, KTs, KJo, KJs, and KQo here. Not only are you often dominated but you have to worry about the players to act behind you and/or the original raiser capping. It just seems like a perfect spot to fold and protect your peanuts

Fwiw, if a guy who has opened every hand for 3 hours opens in early position I'm definitely folding KTo in middle position and waiting for a better spot. It's just not a hand I want to put a lot of money in with and I will have ample opportunity to win bets from him since I have position on him and he's opening 100% of his hands