Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by DeathDonkey (High Stakes)

Great to have another vid on tough lhe spots. I'm really enjoying the series so far.

Time Link to 00:26:44

If he doesn't xr the flop here but calls and then x/raises the turn - if you do valuebet the turn - how do you handle this spot vs a generally good player and what range do you put him on?

At the same time we think he is fast-playing made hands and draws I think we should consider him slow-playing it some portion of the time, also he should know that we will 2nd barrel lots of our range on a board like this so he will make us fold often enough.

Great episode, guys. This is one of the best LHE series on this site already.

I'm actually going to throw a vote in for "What to do when... you have the nuts." I'd love to see what alternative lines you guys come up with for extracting value from thinking opponents.

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We get cc by the btn again in this hand. I really want to bet this 6T4, Q turn to induce a bluff raise. I think most of his hands will be floating us to take a shot on the turn, this being a great one, imo.



get episode, guys.

I don't fold AK on the J86 board. Way too many straight draws + 6 fairly clean outs.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you guys mean, but you seem to be giving very conflicting advice in the AK vs 95 hand (~30 mins in). Just because you'll be playing a lot of hands in a shorthanded game, you should give up with AK when you get c/r on the flop and cont. bet on a brick turn? If you are folding AK, are you folding 22, 33, 44, 55 on that board?

Yeah, there aren't too many draws on that rainbow flop, but to your opponent, that means you might not have hit it either so why not take a shot?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you guys mean, but you seem to be giving very conflicting advice in the AK vs 95 hand (~30 mins in). Just because you'll be playing a lot of hands in a shorthanded game, you should give up with AK when you get c/r on the flop and cont. bet on a brick turn? If you are folding AK, are you folding 22, 33, 44, 55 on that board?

Yeah, there aren't too many draws on that rainbow flop, but to your opponent, that means you might not have hit it either so why not take a shot?

45, 57, 95, 79, T7, T9, Q9, QT isn't a lot of draws?

I think I would fold an underpair here, but not AK

i agree with you nina... maybe i should've said 'obvious' draws (like 568 two-tone, flush draw, oesd staring you straight in the face)

So if we adopt a strategy that involves checking AK OOP UI a lot on the turn, how do we integrate that into a balanced strategy? i.e., what other hands or sorts of hands are we checking? How much would you be check calling and how much would you be check raising?

I don't think I need time stamps - these are the situations in the video:

8 4 7 9 (we have K)

6 T 4 Q

3 T 6 J

So if we adopt a strategy that involves checking AK OOP UI a lot on the turn, how do we integrate that into a balanced strategy? i.e., what other hands or sorts of hands are we checking? How much would you be check calling and how much would you be check raising?

I don't think I need time stamps - these are the situations in the video:

8 4 7 9 (we have K)

6 T 4 Q

3 T 6 J

from a balance perspective, you want to be giving up some hands. So like bet hands w no sd value, check hands w marginal sd value and call the better ones. Check hands that are hurt most by a c/r and bet hands that can fold to a c/r.

If he doesn't xr the flop here but calls and then x/raises the turn - if you do valuebet the turn - how do you handle this spot vs a generally good player and what range do you put him on?

At the same time we think he is fast-playing made hands and draws I think we should consider him slow-playing it some portion of the time, also he should know that we will 2nd barrel lots of our range on a board like this so he will make us fold often enough.

Probably call down. Vs tough players I think you just have to look them up with these hands sometimes and the fact you have 2 overcards is nice because you can still suck out some (better to call down AK than a small pair for example).

We get cc by the btn again in this hand. I really want to bet this 6T4, Q turn to induce a bluff raise. I think most of his hands will be floating us to take a shot on the turn, this being a great one, imo.



get episode, guys.

I don't hate this with a read. I think in general our equity simply isn't good enough to really be betting here. Check/call at least allows us to get a cheaper river the times we are beat, and we induce a bluff some. We are almost never getting a free card when behind here and I still think people bluff more when you check to them than when you bet here for pretty obvious reasons (pot odds, strength you are showing)

Maybe I'm misunderstanding what you guys mean, but you seem to be giving very conflicting advice in the AK vs 95 hand (~30 mins in). Just because you'll be playing a lot of hands in a shorthanded game, you should give up with AK when you get c/r on the flop and cont. bet on a brick turn? If you are folding AK, are you folding 22, 33, 44, 55 on that board?

Yeah, there aren't too many draws on that rainbow flop, but to your opponent, that means you might not have hit it either so why not take a shot?

Heh listening to it again we did sort of get off on a tangent (though I think a neat one). Anyway on this hand I think AK on the turn here is close, I think the avg player isn't bluffing a rainbow flop quite as often since he doesn't CR every gutshot and there are just less draws than a board that also presents a flush draw. That said I agree with Nina that I'd certainly consider calling AK but would more happily fold the small pairs.

from a balance perspective, you want to be giving up some hands. So like bet hands w no sd value, check hands w marginal sd value and call the better ones. Check hands that are hurt most by a c/r and bet hands that can fold to a c/r.

Agree with this advice for checking turn. In addition I'd just say look to value CR hands that are happy to put in 2 bets but not ones that would prefer to bet 3 bet (if I had to pigeon-hole it I'd say the best one pairs fit well into this category).