Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Entity (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:26:47

I fold the 44 all day pre , i would need 1 more fish with this hand. If dschingis and yu2239 were fish instead of regs id call 4ways. In a 1/2 structure i call this all day.

The concept of just calling in the big blind with hand like ATo: i think you were talking about doing this versus good players, i do just call here versus them, but against bad ones i think its just losing too much value by not 3betting pre; also if the guy is aggressive we still have implied odds for our hand on various drawy boards(semibluffs) and on a really dry ones(bluffs). Do you think the same or youd call n that spot too?

Time Link to 00:20:12

I can't even call this donk on the turn. The pot is huge, but 4 ways with all that action the flop someone is going to have a set/Kx/flush almost always, then we still have fade a club river even if our hand is good for half the pot.

The concept of just calling in the big blind with hand like ATo: i think you were talking about doing this versus good players, i do just call here versus them, but against bad ones i think its just losing too much value by not 3betting pre; also if the guy is aggressive we still have implied odds for our hand on various drawy boards(semibluffs) and on a really dry ones(bluffs). Do you think the same or youd call n that spot too?

The problem is we're not up vs a steal raise we're up vs what should be a value raise from the HJ. If it were from the CO I'd be happier 3-betting but this guy hasn't got out of line preflop yet so really I should be giving him the benefit of the doubt. By taking the line I did I'm shrinking the amount of hands I can get value from as a lot of the time he'll just fold worse and call down with better.

The higher up the Ace scale I go towards AK/AQ which you can theoretically bet unimproved for value and legimiately get looked up by worse the more happier I am 3-betting but vs a HJ range ATo is just in the middle of nowhere.

I can't even call this donk on the turn. The pot is huge, but 4 ways with all that action the flop someone is going to have a set/Kx/flush almost always, then we still have fade a club river even if our hand is good for half the pot.

If the donk came from a tight TAG I could trust I may very well agree with you. The fact it didn't plus the fact we can fold to any more action means that I felt ok calling down. Once the turn didn't get raised I was much happier calling the river bet as I felt the only one I had left to be concerned about was the donker whom we've already labelled as untrustworthy. (Fine occasionally the fish who c/c'd 3 on the flop show sup with a weak flush or like K3 but the pot's just getting too big)

I fold the 44 all day pre , i would need 1 more fish with this hand. If dschingis and yu2239 were fish instead of regs id call 4ways. In a 1/2 structure i call this all day.

Yeah, as you see later in the convo we def. missed that.

Rob

Time Link to 00:04:42

JTs on left

I might have missed it but I don't know if the group reached any consensus here - I think QJ and QT are flop raises versus the donk. I would consider value betting the river with either depending on how the board and action went.

JJ/TT are much closer and I think I'd tend to call the flop and re-evaluate.

In both cases one thing that I think is important is that the first limper will likely call ~the same range for 1 bet as 2.

Time Link to 00:26:25

44 on left

Yeah not to beat a dead horse here, but between the 1/3 blind structure, the fact that BB won't come along on all hands, and the rake I'd say we're only getting about 3.5:1 here PF. I'm all for getting in pots with bad players, but here you only have one.

Anyway, now that we've gotten there I think you played well post flop.

Time Link to 00:42:58

A5o on left

Yeah this is a tough spot. I'd love to hear more on this - maybe pass it on to What to do When?

Time Link to 00:58:22

KK on right



Boomer, can you confirm that your win rate would be significantly higher if you just never picked up KK in a DC video? It would have felt fair for you to call and be good here for vindication (although you were good on the AQ hand earlier, which was surprising to me).

Time Link to 01:16:38

TT on right

My first thought was to fold immediately and feel pretty good about it. Rob, I re-watched the hands leading up to it and didn't really see anything from villain that makes me as suspicious as you were. Maybe it's just an intuition thing, but if you could articulate why you're so un-trusting here I'd be interested to hear it.

General comments:

This was probably my favorite episode so far. Boomer plays good imo. Also, who is Chris? I thought he added a good element to the video. And Peter, it was great to hear you back in a vid!

Also, hooray! I made it (sort of) into the video in 2 straight weeks! However, I just reviewed my Skype chat history with Rob and I did not see any evidence of a flatbarrel. However, I will admit that you denied my clever spaceship attack.

hey guys,
there is one point that i saw in the vid:
U have quite no samplesize of the players and give them very much credit to their stats..
dschingis for example is playing a 28/22 stye, kicknyurace is playing 32/23 style, itsADAmyay plays24/19 and so on.
so i think u play in some spots too much with the stats, but use stats on a very small sample
that was just one point that i wanted to say.
i like the vid, and also its interesting to see a lag playing at 3/6 with the 1/3 blindstructre.

Time Link to 00:44:28

My general approach against an unknown dude with taggyish stats here is to call the flop and fold any 9 T J K turn and call anything else which either gives us a pair, pairs the board or gives us a gutter.
I then would usually look him up on any non - 9 T J K river too.
Sounds very simplistic but vs an unknown that's generally what I'd do, does this seem a bit fishy to any of you or is it an ok default?