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King for a Day 3: MEMBERS ONLY : Episode One
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Josh “sthief09” Plotkin delivers the third installment of one of our most popular series, “King for a Day.” Josh will review member vids at small stakes 6max NL.
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Sthief09 is back with a new season of review videos. This week is focusing on 50NL play by a DC member.
Posted 8 months ago
tags: sthief09 king for a day 3 4-tabling 50nl 50 nl nlhe 6max
Micro/Small Stakes,
67 min long
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Ship it! S1&2 were one of the best seires here, can't wait to see this one ![]()
Btw, have you thought of doing some The Coaching Tree-ish videos in this series?
why not to raise the limper with A2o on the BTN, one of the first hands of the session?
33:20, the QTo hand; i agree we shouldnt be calling here, but we could represent KJ/KQ here maybe and go for a checkraise on the river? Providing the btn can handread a bit. Would you ever consider this on these stakes vs this player (looks like a TAG)? If so, how much would you make it ?
why not to raise the limper with A2o on the BTN, one of the first hands of the session?
Please leave a time-stamp or better yet, Watch this short video, and leave a time link!
That will be much easier for the coaches to find the hand and answer your questions, thanks.
why not to raise the limper with A2o on the BTN, one of the first hands of the session?
As Joe Tall mentioned, a time stamp would be helpful in the future. I most likely just missed that spot since I was focusing on post-flop situations. However, I'd want the limper to be a pretty terrible player to raise a hand as poor as A2o. I feel offsuit aces are weaker than a lot of other people do, and obviously A2o is the weakest of the bunch.
33:20, the QTo hand; i agree we shouldnt be calling here, but we could represent KJ/KQ here maybe and go for a checkraise on the river? Providing the btn can handread a bit. Would you ever consider this on these stakes vs this player (looks like a TAG)? If so, how much would you make it ?
I suppose we can represent a flopped gutter that rivered trips since he bet so small on the flop. Under normal circumstances we wouldn't be representing much since we wouldn't be check/calling with K-high on the flop.
He will have Kx sometimes, and he will call with Ax sometimes. I doubt he's bluffing more than a few % of the time. So it's a matter of risk vs. reward. There was 13 in the pot and he bet 7. A pot-sized raise (offering him 2-1) would be 34. I think around 30 would get the job done. That's risking 30 to win 20, needing to work 60%. In a vacuum it looks close to me. Image/history considerations might push it in one direction or the other, but it's the type of thing that I've done less and less over time. It's the type of play that will jack up your variance without really adding anything to your bottom line.
I should note that it's great to be open-minded like this. Always look for spots to do something unorthodox. Even if you decide against it, it's always a good thing to consider all your options.
Btw, have you thought of doing some The Coaching Tree-ish videos in this series?
I actually did one episode like this in S2, but I forgot about that and will definitely consider doing it again for this season. I had several people I wasn't able to fit into the series so maybe I can get a couple involved in some episodes. Great idea.
Time Link to 00:20:30
Not sure we can see how this guy got his stack as we have only been at the table for 15 hands - he could have doubled up before we sat down.
1:00 AQ. First thanks for taking a look. I found it very helpful. I know he has aggressive stats, but the only hand I remember seeing him put lots of money in the pot with was AK when he flopped an A. I'm probably too cautious, but I tend to give raises from bad players credit (until proven wrong ie the guy on the other table) as they are never thinking about what worse hands can call and instead just thinking I have a big hand "pot it". If you call here are you always stacking off if he shoves the turn?
Not sure we can see how this guy got his stack as we have only been at the table for 15 hands - he could have doubled up before we sat down.
We have exactly 15 hands on him so I think all the HUD stats are based on that table session. I have a feeling if we went back and looked at those hands, we would have seen something that would have inclined us to call.
1:00 AQ. First thanks for taking a look. I found it very helpful. I know he has aggressive stats, but the only hand I remember seeing him put lots of money in the pot with was AK when he flopped an A. I'm probably too cautious, but I tend to give raises from bad players credit (until proven wrong ie the guy on the other table) as they are never thinking about what worse hands can call and instead just thinking I have a big hand "pot it".
I'm glad I could help. There is a big difference between raises from bad players and from good players. A good player might bluff more, but his value range will almost always beat your hand here. A bad player might not bluff as often, but he might raise a hand simply because he thinks he has the best hand. So vs. most TAGs, AQ and KQ aren't too far from Q-rag because he's either raising bluffs or AQ/sets and almost never QJ. Vs. a LAG, AQ is significantly stronger than QT because he's much more likely to have KQ, QJ, QT here.
If you call here are you always stacking off if he shoves the turn?
Yes, I stack off and feel pretty good about it. You will see him show up with some pretty funny/weird hands.
We have exactly 15 hands on him so I think all the HUD stats are based on that table session. I have a feeling if we went back and looked at those hands, we would have seen something that would have inclined us to call.
It's not him who has played 15 hands on that table. It's you (or actually the guy who did the video). We have already seen 8 of those 15 hands on video, so most likely he did double up before we sat on table.
33:20, the QTo hand;
That is probably a big leak of mine but I am calling here a large % of the time.
I donot think his range after coldcalling on the button is very Ax heavy and I donot think he would block/valuebet a Kx Hand on the Turn.
I think his range is very weighted to missed GS+something draw that realises that we are not very strong when we c/c 2 really small bets and now bets larger to get us to fold or he has a weirdly played monster like 77.
But maybe that is just paranoid thinking.
It's not him who has played 15 hands on that table. It's you (or actually the guy who did the video). We have already seen 8 of those 15 hands on video, so most likely he did double up before we sat on table.
Ah yes, I don't know why I wasn't processing this.
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