Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by surfdoc (Mid Stakes)

Time Link to 00:01:50

Wow,

Only 2 minutes in and already I couldn't disagree more. The guy open completes his SB. Check your databases and see how much money you make JUST by raising and taking it down a massive percentage of the time. If you don't then you'll have profitable cbet spots a lot of the time. No need to flop an A in a 2BB pot to make money here.

My raising range here will be VERY close to ATC and I'm definitely not gonna check an AX kinda hand and play a 2BB pot.

Time Link to 00:44:16

completing KJo after one limper.

I recently had a discussion with a buddy about these spots because he's a person who completes a ton of hands vs limpers. I was sure that this is an unprofitable play with most hands especially offsuit ones, but I was genuinely stunned when we checked his database and saw HOW MUCH he lost in these spots (hint: it was MASSIVE). It's beyond me why ppl put a ton of effort into playing no initiative-no position poker. I just don't get it.

I'm 100% with JK3A here. I don't even think twice in that spot. KJo is such an incredibly easy raise here.

completing KJo after one limper.

I recently had a discussion with a buddy about these spots because he's a person who completes a ton of hands vs limpers. I was sure that this is an unprofitable play with most hands especially offsuit ones, but I was genuinely stunned when we checked his database and saw HOW MUCH he lost in these spots (hint: it was MASSIVE).
I'm 100% with JK3A here. I don't even think twice in that spot. KJo is such an incredibly easy raise here.

lol, I might be leaking there too. How do you check that in your database? Is there a specific filter for completing in those spots?

discussion of that TT on K high is pretty good.

I always suspect everyone starts bluffing as well so I completely understand why surfdoc doesnt like to c/c c/f line, I always feel the same.

but if i think he starts bluffing then I should just call down.

Re: The QQ hand at the end.

3betting is def +ev for obvious reasons. 5bet jamming vs a tight 4betting range hovers around neutral EV depending on exact 5betting range and FE. I'm happy to do some math for those who would like to see it. Most utg tag openers don't have much of a calling range vs 3bets without the right history/player type which is why I prefer flatting in this scenario.

jk3a, that QQ hand, do you flat QQ in middle position as well?

if you are in Sb/Bb and it gets folded around, do you flat there as well and dont have a 3betting range ?

do you flat AA/KK/AK as well?

Time Link to 00:48:53

A couple of things...

Firstly, thanks a lot for this video. This is the first time in about 3 months that I feel I took something useful away from a DC vid, although admittedly I don't put a lot of effort into studying them.

About the timelink... neither of you mentioned anything about whether or not you would bet the turn with AJ which surprised me somewhat because I really think that the bet is bad. jk3a only mentioned that if you are going to bet, he likes the bet size that hero chose. My question is, would you bet this turn?

Personally, I don't think I would ever bet this turn against any player with AJ for the following reasons:
1) The amount of value that we can get is minimal at best. We chop with Ax, so there is no value there. 22 33 44 and 66-TT are not calling a bet anymore since the K rolled off. Villain could not have flopped tp+fd so the draws that he has are all weak and will almost always fold.

2)If he actually does have us beat then we save money since he can only get in one more street of value by betting the river, which imo is not a call 100% of the time after a turn check.

3) Any made hand that we beat that c/c's the turn is almost always going to c/c the river.

4) We get to induce from fd's gutshots that would fold to a turn bet.

Thoughts on the bet and my analysis would be appreciated.

Also, how can I get someone to review one of my videos like this?

Thanks again.

jk3a, that QQ hand, do you flat QQ in middle position as well?

if you are in Sb/Bb and it gets folded around, do you flat there as well and dont have a 3betting range ?

do you flat AA/KK/AK as well?

most of the time, most of the time/do have a 3betting range, sometimes

A couple of things...

Firstly, thanks a lot for this video. This is the first time in about 3 months that I feel I took something useful away from a DC vid, although admittedly I don't put a lot of effort into studying them.

About the timelink... neither of you mentioned anything about whether or not you would bet the turn with AJ which surprised me somewhat because I really think that the bet is bad. jk3a only mentioned that if you are going to bet, he likes the bet size that hero chose. My question is, would you bet this turn?

Personally, I don't think I would ever bet this turn against any player with AJ for the following reasons:
1) The amount of value that we can get is minimal at best. We chop with Ax, so there is no value there. 22 33 44 and 66-TT are not calling a bet anymore since the K rolled off. Villain could not have flopped tp+fd so the draws that he has are all weak and will almost always fold.

2)If he actually does have us beat then we save money since he can only get in one more street of value by betting the river, which imo is not a call 100% of the time after a turn check.

3) Any made hand that we beat that c/c's the turn is almost always going to c/c the river.

4) We get to induce from fd's gutshots that would fold to a turn bet.

Thoughts on the bet and my analysis would be appreciated.

Also, how can I get someone to review one of my videos like this?

Thanks again.

very std turn bet, def giving your villains too much credit

lots of these vids are taken from current students of the video maker and sometimes people about to start a series ask for volunteers in the forums.

most of the time, most of the time/do have a 3betting range, sometimes

if we are not 3betting QQ then our range for 3betting early/middle position open is AA/KK/AK? balanced by some air?

lol, I might be leaking there too. How do you check that in your database? Is there a specific filter for completing in those spots?

Now while I could certainly tell you the filters you need to apply to find out about your losses when you complete the SB, I think it's more beneficial for you if you find out about this yourself. And honestly... HEM filters aren't rocket science.

if we are not 3betting QQ then our range for 3betting early/middle position open is AA/KK/AK? balanced by some air?

If you're not 3betting much, like Scott, then yes.

Time Link to 00:56:45

On the KQ had, i know you described why you would lead the river but on such a dry flop your range for calling is Kx, QQ-99, 8x, 77 and 66's. But on the river you would never bet 77, 66, 8x, QQ or TT, so when you do lead then you almost always have Kx, 99 and JJ and villian can play perfectly against you. So wouldn't checking be more profitable since you can rep 77,66, 8x or TT by checking (even if its a tag) and villian could bet for thin value with a J or bluff since 77,66, and 8x is 4th pair and TT is 3 pair? Hopefully this makes since.

On the KQ had, i know you described why you would lead the river but on such a dry flop your range for calling is Kx, QQ-99, 8x, 77 and 66's. But on the river you would never bet 77, 66, 8x, QQ or TT, so when you do lead then you almost always have Kx, 99 and JJ and villian can play perfectly against you. So wouldn't checking be more profitable since you can rep 77,66, 8x or TT by checking (even if its a tag) and villian could bet for thin value with a J or bluff since 77,66, and 8x is 4th pair and TT is 3 pair? Hopefully this makes since.

Against really good tags that respect your game, checking becomes a much more viable option for the reasons you give. It can be/is generally better at higher stakes. At theses stakes, most tags are rarely bluffing the river and not value betting thinly.