DeathDonkey and Oink team up for this episode. Oink is in the lead as DeathDonkey picks his brain over a $50/100 game and a $30/60 game on PartyPoker.
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I actually logged in to watch some "My Danish Luckbox" again and imagine my surprise to see my two favorite video makers in one episode! Awesome vid... praying that Oink's return to the mic continues ![]()
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Awesome having both you guys on the mic on a live session.
Loved listening to the thought process going on, especially with regards to how accurately you can pick apart ranges etc. Great stuff
Time Link to 00:54:12
@54m12s
Oink, I'm having trouble understanding one of your sentences. First you say that J is a horrible card on the river so it's a pretty easy check/fold. Fine. And then, you say had it come a brick "a lot of play would be just to give up." What does this mean? I'm assuming you meant you'd still check/fold even if the river came a brick?
Can you please clarify?
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Time Link to 00:15:22
In this spot I would consider calling with JTs and maybe 9Ts. I am wondering if I am missing value by playing to tight against bad players here or is 65s perhaps a little too loose?
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@54m12s
Oink, I'm having trouble understanding one of your sentences. First you say that J is a horrible card on the river so it's a pretty easy check/fold. Fine. And then, you say had it come a brick "a lot of play would be just to give up." What does this mean? I'm assuming you meant you'd still check/fold even if the river came a brick?
Can you please clarify?
I think he's saying that he expects the river to go check/check a lot once he decides to check/call the turn. I think it is a fair conclusion from what he said to believe that he would check/fold most rivers, though I am not sure.
Time Link to 00:16:59
Re: the AK hand on the 4 diamond board, I kind of wonder about a check on the river...
Let me ask this, without really knowing what's right or what I prefer: what are our betting and checking ranges on this particular river? If we're checking a wide range, and I think we should, are we c/r bluffing the bottom of our checking range? Also, what value hands are we barrelling if we are checking a lot of flushes? How often are we giving up v. barrelling without sd value?
Edit: I might have messed up the timestamp... I think its around minute 16 but i could be wrong.
Re: the AK hand on the 4 diamond board, I kind of wonder about a check on the river...
Let me ask this, without really knowing what's right or what I prefer: what are our betting and checking ranges on this particular river? If we're checking a wide range, and I think we should, are we c/r bluffing the bottom of our checking range? Also, what value hands are we barrelling if we are checking a lot of flushes? How often are we giving up v. barrelling without sd value?
Edit: I might have messed up the timestamp... I think its around minute 16 but i could be wrong.
Hi Jeremy!
In this case we are up against button's capping range, which isn't clearly defined but I think we can make some ok guesses (highly pair heavy, some Ax, some two big cards with or without a diamond). It seems against that range we would prefer to be doing a lot of betting and very little checking, considering he has so much showdown value with a lot of his range? Why do you want to find a wide balanced checking range vs a capping range that looks to be calling us down? If I understand that better maybe we can argue it some. I think I would definitely fire the last barrel with whatever bluffs I have here (need to rewatch to see what possible bluffs we could have though!).
Time Link to 00:21:10
At first I thought this was an easy check behind on the river but after looking at this it may be a perfectly thin bet. Under the following assumptions:
1) he would have capped with TT+
2) He would have shown more aggression with a J or an A. I know the villian liked to wait for the turn to raise a J, but wouldn't this apply to more of a HU situation than MW?
3) He will pay off with worse. I think this is likely in such a big pot.
We are ahead of 55,77 and possibly a 6d7d type hand. We are behind 99 although the villian may have capped this preflop.
Time Link to 00:38:46
DD,
Are there turns you would not raise here if you decided to float the flop?
Would you play differently with a gutter like 97o?
Hi Jeremy!
In this case we are up against button's capping range, which isn't clearly defined but I think we can make some ok guesses (highly pair heavy, some Ax, some two big cards with or without a diamond). It seems against that range we would prefer to be doing a lot of betting and very little checking, considering he has so much showdown value with a lot of his range? Why do you want to find a wide balanced checking range vs a capping range that looks to be calling us down? If I understand that better maybe we can argue it some. I think I would definitely fire the last barrel with whatever bluffs I have here (need to rewatch to see what possible bluffs we could have though!).
I guess I just feel like we want to c/r some of our big flushes in this spot, and I'm wondering about how that desire effects the rest of our range or whether we should be c/r here with flushes as much as I think we should be... I just feel like a lot of his range (underpairs to the ace) is folding without a diamond and if he has some hand with a diamond in it, he'll bet... So that makes me want to c/r some, and I'm wondering about c/c and c/f at some frequency to counter that...
In this spot I would consider calling with JTs and maybe 9Ts. I am wondering if I am missing value by playing to tight against bad players here or is 65s perhaps a little too loose?
65s there is loose for sure. And I cant prove its +EV.
But two important things:
- If the initial raiser decides to fold the flop or turn we get position which improves the plyability of our hand on subsequent streets.
- Both players seemed rather loose and at least one of them was bad.
You mention JTs. Against wide ranges which most will have in midstakes you absolutely need to either call or cap that one. 65s may be too loose but JTs and T9s are super std to play there
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