Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by DJ Sensei (Mid Stakes)

Thanks for the responses DJ Sensei. I hope you are not thinking I am bashing on you by expressing my doubts about how profitable it would be at lower stakes

I am just pointing out that I am just not nearly as good as you, and when I try to aply what you say to my own game, I make a lot of mistakes by miss-aplying

About the J9 hand, why are all the 10s the same to you?
What if the river is a J? Isn't it more likely he has 2 pair now?

The biggest winners with more then 50.000 hands in my HEM DB are all players that play like 16/12 with a good aggression. I have not a single player that plays 22/17 game that beats the game with such a high winrate.

How come?

What stakes?

I suspect that poor postflop skills and not making the proper adjustments to your opponents adjustments to you are primarily to blame, but also the kind of player who could sustain such stats and win a lot probably has moved up, while the 16/12 grinders are content to win solidly at their existing stakes.

I 16-table and play 25/18/6 and have one of the top 3 winrates at 2/4FR on FTP this year. Over 250k hands I'm running 3.25ptbb/100. I'm actually more surprised when I see someone playing 15/12 that has a very good winrate as I feel like they must be passing up countless profitable spots. The guys that play that tight and still have a great winrate I feel like really play well postflop.

I'm going to have to go ahead and call this bluff.

There's no way you're playing 25/18 filtered to nine handed play. You have to be starting a lot of tables etc. to get numbers like this if you are actually winning at the winrate you have described.

What stakes?

I suspect that poor postflop skills and not making the proper adjustments to your opponents adjustments to you are primarily to blame, but also the kind of player who could sustain such stats and win a lot probably has moved up, while the 16/12 grinders are content to win solidly at their existing stakes.

FTP NL200 and NL400 over the last 3-4 month. All big names in my DB are quite "tight" players focusing on isolating the limpers and weaker players.

I think you have to be an extremely good poker player to loose up at those limits. 22/17 is really hard to play. There are so many professional short stackers that jump over your open raises as they ever have a equity edge against your raise, the slightly tighter players will 3bet you in all possible sports, etc.

I guess you have to develop this skills when you play NL600+ and you should most definitely play some 6max and HU to improve your hand reading skills before you do that, but until then you can stay pretty tight aggessiveand do your thing.

Thanks for the responses DJ Sensei. I hope you are not thinking I am bashing on you by expressing my doubts about how profitable it would be at lower stakes

I am just pointing out that I am just not nearly as good as you, and when I try to aply what you say to my own game, I make a lot of mistakes by miss-aplying

About the J9 hand, why are all the 10s the same to you?
What if the river is a J? Isn't it more likely he has 2 pair now?

Keyfact for the lower stakes imho is that you will have way less thinking players. You cannot make moves and expect them to understand your move or to understand what hand you are representing. I make a move like all 1000 hands, where the flop comes ugly and i call till the river, where flush and straight arrives and try to steal the pot - get called from bottom pair. Hmpf...

So better stick to the simple and straight forward play on the micros and small stakes imho. You can add some hands, some plays, some new lines with every limit you move up.

Yeh im really confused how DJ is playing at 23/18 or whatever or Jim is playing at 25/18 and winning at the rate they do. I play at 15/12-ish usually because otherwise you get punished by shortstacks big time. I guess on a table with no shortstacks you can open up to like 19/15 maybe, but going any looser than that seems like suicide unless everyone else REALLY sucks. I mean really the 23/18's that I see just get taken to the cleaners by the numerous shortstackers that I see in FTP 2/4 FR game. They open like KQo in like EP and then some shortie shoves and they fold. Over and over again. Or they get tilted and call and get shown AK or QQ or something.

50bb tables imo

its insane that there arent 50BB tables at 25nl and lower *sidenote*

I'm going to have to go ahead and call this bluff.

There's no way you're playing 25/18 filtered to nine handed play. You have to be starting a lot of tables etc. to get numbers like this if you are actually winning at the winrate you have described.

I can post a screen shot if you want me to. filtered for 9-handed my stats are 22.7/15.4/5.2. You're right that 25/18/6 includes HU and shorthanded play as I try to start at least 2 tables every session to get deep games going.

My winrate for 250k hands this year is 3.73ptbb/100 at 2/4FR though. And my average tables per session is right at 15.

can u share who u are on ftp

can u share who u are on ftp

themightyjim (kinda thought my DC name would give that away )

50bb tables imo

This unfortunately means playing "deep" tables only. If there are enough deep tables, which is not the case most of the times, you still have like no table selection options. Second, the fish play normal tables - if the fish or tourist wants to play for $100, he will sit down at the $100 table. If the fish wants to gamble with $200, he sits down at 1/2 or maybe at 5/10.

Probably the only way would be to start only deep tables yourself. Hoping that at first 2-3 fish will sit down.

@ themightyjim: no doubts in your words bit in my DB you have like 12k hands with 0.14 bb/100 and the AF is only around 2.7. From most of the regs I have 50-100k hands, so either you do not play that much these days or you play only a few tables?

This unfortunately means playing "deep" tables only. If there are enough deep tables, which is not the case most of the times, you still have like no table selection options. Second, the fish play normal tables - if the fish or tourist wants to play for $100, he will sit down at the $100 table. If the fish wants to gamble with $200, he sits down at 1/2 or maybe at 5/10.

Probably the only way would be to start only deep tables yourself. Hoping that at first 2-3 fish will sit down.

@ themightyjim: no doubts in your words bit in my DB you have like 12k hands with 0.14 bb/100 and the AF is only around 2.7. From most of the regs I have 50-100k hands, so either you do not play that much these days or you play only a few tables?

lol couldn't be a sample size issue also never made claims about my AF, but it is probably a bit lower than tighter regs. Simply put I can't play as aggro postflop because I will have the goods less so I can't just constantly be betting and raising and repping AA and KK.

seriously I can post a screen shot if you want or you can look me up at tableratings. Sort 2/4nl for this year, because I used to play 6max and TBH I think I have a ton of leaks in 6max so that is why I switched to FR in january. PTR lumps 6max and FR together and my 6max WR is lousy and that is why I switched.

but I feel like I really derailed the thread. The vids are awesome and we should be discussing them and not what my WR or stats are. The only reason I brought it up is because I'm always surprised that there aren't more regs playing like DJ suggest, and that most of the big winners in the 2/4FR games on FTP seem to all play a similar 15/12 pf style.

in the first hand of the video isn't there a lot of value to betting the turn? We charge draws, and will often still get called by worse pkt pairs that expect that we are two barreling to rep the A.

maybe this is something that only works for me because I run at 25/18/6 at FR, but I definitely value bet this turn, and then probably c/c a lot of rivers if a blank hits.

dj any chance you could address this when you get a chance? It is a spot I'm kind of wondering about, though I guess it could just be very villain dependent.

I really think that this series would have been better with a live video format.
I mean what does it help me to know how to play in certain spots with an aggressive image if I just don't have an aggressive image and don't know how to get one or just pick the wrong spots to establish an aggressive image?

still some great stuff in there