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my std after c/r is to usually bet turn and decide on river. sometimes vbetting, sometimes c/c, sometimes c/f

Care to comment on the other scenarios? Wilt?

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I have am interested in the line "good reg" took in the last hand. It seems like there is more room in todays games to play tpgk for value with CRs on the flop. Against another thinking opponent what should he do with KQ on a turn brick? If he bets and gets called should he bet again on the river? How about a turn A? How about if he gets 3 bet on the flop?

Care to comment on the other scenarios? Wilt?

Here is the ? again

I have am interested in the line "good reg" took in the last hand. It seems like there is more room in todays games to play tpgk for value with CRs on the flop. Against another thinking opponent what should he do with KQ on a turn brick? If he bets and gets called should he bet again on the river? How about a turn A? How about if he gets 3 bet on the flop?

good questions. this sounds like a cop out answer but I'm not really trying to cop out... but i dont really feel you can have a "standard" here vs a readless reg. Let me try to elaborate.

It comes back to what we're trying to accomplish vs the particular player. This type of thing comes up a lot in heads up play. Based on how other hands have played out, we should have an idea of how he's going to react when we want to c/r for thin value. Have we seen HIM bluff c/r dry boards before? Have we seen HIM take lines where he can't represent many strong hands as a bluff? If this is the case, we're hoping to c/r TP in order to rep air as he seems to like to do (and will likely be hyper sensitive to it). We hope this induces him to spazz out in some what, but in which way?

Is he the type of reg to fight fire with fire or do we think he's a little more savvy? Have we seen him float to steal or does he just rebluff re-raise a lot, such as in 4bet/5bet scenarios?

If he's the type to be floaty in other spots, probably we need to consider c/r and check the turn. Our goal with the flop c/r is to get him to float air/gutters.

If he's the type to 4bet/5bet a lot pre in those types of fire vs fire scenarios, perhaps he's more likely to simply re-raise the flop c/r if he suspects you're fos. In that case we're checkraising in order to induce a 3bet.

Have you been really aggro toward him preflop with 3bets? Do you think he's getting tilted toward you? then he might be a good candidate to c/r and bet the turn for value and probably just not fold.

If I have no idea or no inclination, I generally don't c/r TP vs him w/o a plan of how I expect him to react.

As for whether not to bet an A turn, on this particular board I might not as it overreps my hand (but I still might, if I think he's not folding any bluff catcher), on other boards where it's less likely to hit either of you, then I like continuing to go for value (assuming he can read hands).

Hope that helps

good questions. this sounds like a cop out answer but I'm not really trying to cop out... but i dont really feel you can have a "standard" here vs a readless reg. Let me try to elaborate.

It comes back to what we're trying to accomplish vs the particular player. This type of thing comes up a lot in heads up play. Based on how other hands have played out, we should have an idea of how he's going to react when we want to c/r for thin value. Have we seen HIM bluff c/r dry boards before? Have we seen HIM take lines where he can't represent many strong hands as a bluff? If this is the case, we're hoping to c/r TP in order to rep air as he seems to like to do (and will likely be hyper sensitive to it). We hope this induces him to spazz out in some what, but in which way?

Is he the type of reg to fight fire with fire or do we think he's a little more savvy? Have we seen him float to steal or does he just rebluff re-raise a lot, such as in 4bet/5bet scenarios?

If he's the type to be floaty in other spots, probably we need to consider c/r and check the turn. Our goal with the flop c/r is to get him to float air/gutters.

If he's the type to 4bet/5bet a lot pre in those types of fire vs fire scenarios, perhaps he's more likely to simply re-raise the flop c/r if he suspects you're fos. In that case we're checkraising in order to induce a 3bet.

Have you been really aggro toward him preflop with 3bets? Do you think he's getting tilted toward you? then he might be a good candidate to c/r and bet the turn for value and probably just not fold.

If I have no idea or no inclination, I generally don't c/r TP vs him w/o a plan of how I expect him to react.

As for whether not to bet an A turn, on this particular board I might not as it overreps my hand (but I still might, if I think he's not folding any bluff catcher), on other boards where it's less likely to hit either of you, then I like continuing to go for value (assuming he can read hands).

Hope that helps

Thank you that does help. It is not a cop out in any way and I pretty much assumed that the questions were close and that in close spots we have to look to metagame for answers. Makes sense and thanks for taking the time to elaborate.

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You guys talk about bluff 4betting if we were UTG and a TAG squeezed here in the SB. If you do 4bet bluff, are you shoving? If not, to what amount would you 4bet/fold? Let's say squeezer made it $60.

You guys talk about bluff 4betting if we were UTG and a TAG squeezed here in the SB. If you do 4bet bluff, are you shoving? If not, to what amount would you 4bet/fold? Let's say squeezer made it $60.

prob like 130ish/fold to a 5bet