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New Kid on the Block : Episode Three
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Nolan takes a micro stakes full ring NL student under his wing in this mini-series. Nolan offers advice through video reviews, and later he will coach his new student directly, as well as bring on some other DC full-ring NL coaches to assist.
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SoundedSimple takes his turn at working with the New Kid on the Block, Eric. They review his play at 10NL and give some helpful hints on where his leaks lie, and where his play is now.
Posted about 1 year ago
tags: soundedsimple new kid on the block 10nl 4-tabling video review
Micro/Small Stakes,
67 min long
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The AJs fold UTG:
If you raise AQs, probably because of pair value, more like for flush value, what is the difference between AQs and AJs?
New Kid stated that he usually raises EP 77+,AQ+ but several times in the vid he actually raised 33+ from EP. Comments?
Good comments about getting value and bet-sizing. Good illustrative hands with T8o flopping trips multi-way and also AJ in blinds that Rivered a straight vs loose flop re-raiser.
The AJs fold UTG:
If you raise AQs, probably because of pair value, more like for flush value, what is the difference between AQs and AJs?
Its more to have a hand that can still have good equity against the setminers who are pretty rampant (even decent tags play straightforward and try to crack your strong UTG range).
AJs and AQs are pretty similar but unless I have a good reason to I just drop the AJs, yes its only one hand value but playing TP hands is tough enough OOP without having to worry about flopping a Jxx and value towning yourself against JJ/QQ.
If there was a super fish around I might open up a little more in the hope of isolating and stacking them.
New Kid stated that he usually raises EP 77+,AQ+ but several times in the vid he actually raised 33+ from EP. Comments?
You would have to ask Eric to be sure but I think this is an example of his game in progression. The vid was probably recorded a while back and his conversations with the coaches here I think have steered him away from low pp in EP.
I don't think that low PP in EP will lose you a lot of money, but they almost certainly wont make you much either. What they will do is often leave you OOP on the turn with an underpair and no idea what to do.
This may not seem so important at uNL because we dont expect to get pure bluff floated but if a guy is peeling 57 on an A72 flop then we are the ones making the "mistake" with 33/44/55.
This will get worse as you move up and deal with better players so I just drop these hands and use the table time to open up a wider button and cut off range.
and what if we raised hands like that pure for flush value/semi bluf value and never for pair value?
People put villian on a tight range because it's UTG, so why can't we be more wide from there?
I really don't think it would work out too well.
Not only are we not getting value from TP very often since FR players will fold worse TP and medium strength hands to our bets. Also remember the basics AQ on a Qxx is much stronger than AJ on Jxx or Txx simply because we are ahead more often and stay ahead more often.
When I was grinding the micros I always heard people repeating the advice "tighter EP looser LP" over and over again. At that time I was thinking "I cant be any tigher in EP or any looser in LP", since that time I have more than doubled my LP range and probably cut 30% or more from my EP range.
Id love to be proved wrong - seriously (who doesnt want to play more hands?). So you could always play loose from EP over a million hand sample and come back to me with the results.
Or you could ship me several $K and I could tell you not to and that would be the cheaper option 
Its more to have a hand that can still have good equity against the setminers who are pretty rampant (even decent tags play straightforward and try to crack your strong UTG range).
AJs and AQs are pretty similar but unless I have a good reason to I just drop the AJs, yes its only one hand value but playing TP hands is tough enough OOP without having to worry about flopping a Jxx and value towning yourself against JJ/QQ.
Seems like people playing straightforward/trying to setmine is a GREAT reason to play those hands, postflop is going to be super easy to play. We have a hand that can potentially cooler sets with a nutflush or nutstraight and when we flop TPTK we can be very happy with folding when we meet resistance (something that is not going to happen a lot since flopping sets/monsters is not easy for villain).
This may not seem so important at uNL because we dont expect to get pure bluff floated but if a guy is peeling 57 on an A72 flop then we are the ones making the "mistake" with 33/44/55.
I'm very happy to cbet any 2 if I know they only peel/float stuff like 75 on A72r. Flopping pairs is not easy, and if people play fit or fold you have good cbet opportunities on almost any flop.
What they will do is often leave you OOP on the turn with an underpair and no idea what to do.
It's very easy, time for a check/fold on the turn.
Disclaimer; I don't play full ring (except live), I'm just allergic for nits 
Hey Hielko, loved your series btw.
The thing about EP in Full Ring is that there are 4-6 players with position on you who can do any of the following if you have AJo/ATo/KQo/87s/33;
- Flop great hands and put you in trouble
- Flop medium hands and draws on ugly boards and put you in trouble
- Be bad enough to peel you with overs and put you in trouble
- Be good enough to peel you with overs and put you in trouble
Again, I'm not saying that AJs or 33 will lose you money especially at the micros but most uNL players have a lot of trouble playing OOP. If you had exceptional skill advantage over the table then yes you should and must go ahead and exploit every edge, you might find it tough when multitabling to assess an entire table repeatedly.
Also, even if you were to prove or show that these hands showed a small profit you have to offset the fact that you will be playing lots of marginal spots OOP, this can lead to missed spots on other tables and possible tilt.
Finally a uNL player might open these at 25 and 50 and do OK with them, when they move up to small stakes they will have to adjust though because people like to make moves a little more and can read hands a little better.
Playing out of position is always bad.
Doing it in full ring where you are likely to be out of position against multiple people,
well that's exponentially bad.
Just my 2c.
Time Link to 00:22:46
Hey everyone, first post here, not that of a big deal but here's my 2 cents.
First of all I like your vids man, and showing some uNL is great.
Against this guy who's a nit, on this very dry board he'll only call with a King, Aces, or a set. So that's a VERY low percentage of times. Therefore, I think we can bet close to half pot here, like .55 than .70, so we can save extra money for times when he'll call.
Ok that's only one bb and one sb, but there are so many spots like this which will come up, I think that could improve the winrate and I was just thinking about being optimal there.
Tell me what you think
Hey everyone, first post here, not that of a big deal but here's my 2 cents.
First of all I like your vids man, and showing some uNL is great.
Against this guy who's a nit, on this very dry board he'll only call with a King, Aces, or a set. So that's a VERY low percentage of times. Therefore, I think we can bet close to half pot here, like .55 than .70, so we can save extra money for times when he'll call.
Ok that's only one bb and one sb, but there are so many spots like this which will come up, I think that could improve the winrate and I was just thinking about being optimal there.
Tell me what you think
Lol ok you just say it one minute after, sorry.
Time Link to 00:52:05
When flop comes AQcTc, what if the opponent was a reg like 17/12, would you still bet this flop ?
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