Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by newmanmi (Mid Stakes)

Woohoo first comment on your first video! Congrats Mike!

Like your thinking about playing differently, but seems alot of the hands were coolers where money was going in regardless how you played.

But overall definately some things here to add to our arsenals.

Should be a interesting series.

I know this series is about taking different lines, but..

At 40:07 when the semi fish limps and gets raised by Reg for isolation, shouldn't we just flat here to get fish to call and see a flop. Plus a lot of times he is raising to isolate and may not have a very strong hand, so when we 3bet outta the blinds and fish folds, he may very well fold his borderline hands that could pay us off if he hits a piece.

Just curious on your thought here.

Sorry was 47:07 for the previous hand.

Also on same hand, as played. I really like your double check there.

I change up and check sometimes on the flop, but when checked back to I am almost always betting turn to start trying to get value. Your check on turn I really like.

I know this series is about taking different lines, but..

At 40:07 when the semi fish limps and gets raised by Reg for isolation, shouldn't we just flat here to get fish to call and see a flop. Plus a lot of times he is raising to isolate and may not have a very strong hand, so when we 3bet outta the blinds and fish folds, he may very well fold his borderline hands that could pay us off if he hits a piece.

Just curious on your thought here.

I agree and understand that I should flat pre sometimes, but aces plays better in a HU pot when a lot of money goes in pre. If I 3b here the fish can potentially cold call pre or reshove over me with some hands he might of attempted to limp reraise.

In general I am very aggressive in terms of 3betting pre so I will intentionally be 3betting this spot wider for value because he is:

- Isolating the fish, his range is wider for isolating.
- He will realise this and attempt to 4b me wider as a bluff sometimes.
- I can 3b wider for value and the fish can call sometimes while the reg folds.

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I am playing 6max only @50NL, but the video was pretty interesting.

In general, are we supposed to have c/raising ranges as the PFR?
If so, are we going to have c/r ranges on any types of boards?
If it's not on any types of boards, can you elaborate what types of boards you are c/raising sometimes (eg the ones you c/f a lot?).

In general, I've heard from another vid that c/r as the PFR isn't very good since a)it is hard to balance b)villain will check back most hands he wouldn't have liked to be c/red (eg middlepairs, TPWKs) c)and your cbet would have folded out his air part a lot anyways.
But the argument was on a rather dry board, so I would love to hear your arguments of having c/r ranges as the PFR in general.

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dont really agree at all with c/ring a 28/8 on this board
maybe explain more why you think the fishes betting range is going to be that much wider then his calling range to make up for the fact that this flop checking through is absolutely terrible for us? seems like fps vrs fish to me

the next hand with JTs really confuses me also. In spots like these where you raise EP and get flatted in the blinds and you have air on a gutter board, you need to be barreling with your entire range simply because we can assume alot of guys are 3betting KK/AA out of position and raise at some point in the hand with a set so their hand can rarely stand 3 barrels. Yeah sure checking back a flush draw is cool when you river the nuts and he overbets and has TPTK, but theres just tons of situations where this play wont end up well. You end up putting 117 dollars into a 42 dollar pot on the turn with 20% equity with no explanation of his range or plans of winning the hand other then rivering the nuts and getting shoved into. I think this hand will end up way more +ev just cbetting the flop with the intentions of barreling basically every turn and alot of rivers. also this play is completely unnecessary for range balancing, as you can easily check back a hand like 89 or 910 here with showdown value and still have flush draws in your range, checking back here with jack high is kind of pointless.

I think you are a really smart player and the theory in this video is really good I just feel that alot of the hands are kind of pointless nonstandard lines for the sake of being nonstandard rather then spots that it actually made a big difference in the decisions your opponent made.

Personally I feel like this kind of topic is best discussed either as a liveplay style or a full lecture style simply because hhs dont demonstrate the point enough because its easy to pick out a few hands where random stuff worked out well. I mean come on, the 66 hand you could have just overbet jammed over the cbet and probably got called by both of the guys that you got it in with by flatting

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On the K83tt with AK in the 3bet pot: I thought the board made this hand pretty straight forward, but you never discussed how we might change our line on different turns and rivers.

We have id'd villain's range as almost always QQ (and sometimes JJ or A8) so are we slowing down on a Q turn or river? It would be unusual for a player to have a hand he wants to check behind on this flop and then bet a turn Q when checked to that we have beat (A8/JJ will try to get to SD) so can we simply ch/F?

Also, on a club turn, what line do you like? Is it still a vbet? If so, is your sizing different? Would checking a club turn and value betting most rivers to get more calls from SD bound hands like QQ be appropriate, or are we too concerned that villain could have a single club in his hand? Should we check/call a turn club and bet/fold a river club in this scenario? This is certainly a non-standard line, but I'm not sure many regulars are paying us off on a 4flush board with QQ and no club.

Obviously, you run like a God, so most of your analysis comes when you have the best of it. I love the way you present your analysis. You provide thoughts behind your line choice based on opponent history.

Hopefully, in future episodes, you post a few hands where you are in with the worst of it. I would like to see some hands that you knew you have the worst of it and why you chose to continue with the hand, along with some hands where you were wrong about your opponent's hand and maybe were out-leveled yourself. These will help me analyze my own hand histories, which is something I struggle with now.

Thanks for this video. The rest of your series should be stellar!

dont really agree at all with c/ring a 28/8 on this board
maybe explain more why you think the fishes betting range is going to be that much wider then his calling range to make up for the fact that this flop checking through is absolutely terrible for us? seems like fps vrs fish to me

I don't necessarily think his range for betting is going to be wider then his range for calling, I simply think there is more EV to gain on this flop by c/r because I believe (given what I have seen of him) he is going to be willing to stack any over pair, any top pair good kicker, any draw etc. By taking a bet bet bet line the size of the pot remains small and the board could come out very badly both for my hand and for his hand, hence killing the action.

the next hand with JTs really confuses me also. In spots like these where you raise EP and get flatted in the blinds and you have air on a gutter board, you need to be barreling with your entire range simply because we can assume alot of guys are 3betting KK/AA out of position and raise at some point in the hand with a set so their hand can rarely stand 3 barrels. Yeah sure checking back a flush draw is cool when you river the nuts and he overbets and has TPTK, but theres just tons of situations where this play wont end up well. You end up putting 117 dollars into a 42 dollar pot on the turn with 20% equity with no explanation of his range or plans of winning the hand other then rivering the nuts and getting shoved into. I think this hand will end up way more +ev just cbetting the flop with the intentions of barreling basically every turn and alot of rivers. also this play is completely unnecessary for range balancing, as you can easily check back a hand like 89 or 910 here with showdown value and still have flush draws in your range, checking back here with jack high is kind of pointless.

Again the importance of this hand is to show that when you take a nonstandard line, players will often make incorrect adjustments, value bet too thinly because they don't consider you to ever take a line with a hand that you would ALWAYS cbet. The whole point of this video is to show what happens in hands when you do take nonstandard lines.

I could make a video showing how to play 15/12 straight forward ABC poker and beat the 2/4 games, but I didn't really want to, there is plenty of solid content from good video makers that shows how to play standard full ring poker. The aim of the video is just to get people to think differently.

I think you are a really smart player and the theory in this video is really good I just feel that alot of the hands are kind of pointless nonstandard lines for the sake of being nonstandard rather then spots that it actually made a big difference in the decisions your opponent made.

That is the point of the video as above I just want people to think differently, I remember watching a video Galfond produced at high stakes PLO when he said being able to take nonstandard lines versus big winning, thinking opponents is very important and being able to have hands in your range that they never expect you to have by taking creative postflop lines will make you harder to play against in general.

Personally I feel like this kind of topic is best discussed either as a liveplay style or a full lecture style simply because hhs dont demonstrate the point enough because its easy to pick out a few hands where random stuff worked out well. I mean come on, the 66 hand you could have just overbet jammed over the cbet and probably got called by both of the guys that you got it in with by flatting

This is the feedback I wanted, what would you guys like to see in future videos as I have to make 8 parts for this??

I am playing 6max only @50NL, but the video was pretty interesting.

In general, are we supposed to have c/raising ranges as the PFR?

I would say in most games it is fairly non standard to have a range that you c/r as the pfr, but by doing so it makes us very hard to play against on certain board textures.

If so, are we going to have c/r ranges on any types of boards?

I think, with the right reads an argument can be made for c/r almost every type of board texture versus specific opponents, with the right reasoning and understanding of how opponents think it can turn a marginally or small profiting spot into a large profiting spot.

If it's not on any types of boards, can you elaborate what types of boards you are c/raising sometimes (eg the ones you c/f a lot?).

In general, I've heard from another vid that c/r as the PFR isn't very good since a)it is hard to balance b)villain will check back most hands he wouldn't have liked to be c/red (eg middlepairs, TPWKs) c)and your cbet would have folded out his air part a lot anyways.
But the argument was on a rather dry board, so I would love to hear your arguments of having c/r ranges as the PFR in general.

In the games that I play against (heavily infested with regulars) the players are very aggressive, when you check to them on a multitude of different board textures players will aggressively attempt to barrel you if you check as the PFR. At 50nl games I could see a lot more loose passive players checking back hands when they should be betting and I think this video and some of the concepts apply to higher level games.

As I said in another quote, c/r as the PFR makes you harder to play against because players can not simply bet their entire range when checked too, it can be hard to balance but by using different strengths of hands to do so it can be achieved.

On the K83tt with AK in the 3bet pot: I thought the board made this hand pretty straight forward, but you never discussed how we might change our line on different turns and rivers.

We have id'd villain's range as almost always QQ (and sometimes JJ or A8) so are we slowing down on a Q turn or river? It would be unusual for a player to have a hand he wants to check behind on this flop and then bet a turn Q when checked to that we have beat (A8/JJ will try to get to SD) so can we simply ch/F?

I wouldn't be simply check/folding because his range isn't 100% defined but I guess you could consider it. I would def slow down on a Q turn though as I am guessing this improves his 3b for value range significantly.

Also, on a club turn, what line do you like? Is it still a vbet? If so, is your sizing different?

Yes, I am not worried heavily about clubs being in his range. I might bet slightly more as the texture would be wetter, in the video I said I wanted to size my turn bet a bit bigger as is.

Would checking a club turn and value betting most rivers to get more calls from SD bound hands like QQ be appropriate, or are we too concerned that villain could have a single club in his hand?

After he checks back flop I am basically betting 100% of turns, he is showdown bound and my hand doesn't want that to happen, he doesn't put many Kx hands in my range for flat calling pre so I am probably going to get 2 streets of value from under pair hands + charge his drawing hands.

Should we check/call a turn club and bet/fold a river club in this scenario? This is certainly a non-standard line, but I'm not sure many regulars are paying us off on a 4flush board with QQ and no club.

Again clubs really don't bother me and I doubt it will bother him, I have so few combos of hands that are calling OOP that have clubs in them.

Obviously, you run like a God, so most of your analysis comes when you have the best of it. I love the way you present your analysis. You provide thoughts behind your line choice based on opponent history.

Hopefully, in future episodes, you post a few hands where you are in with the worst of it. I would like to see some hands that you knew you have the worst of it and why you chose to continue with the hand, along with some hands where you were wrong about your opponent's hand and maybe were out-leveled yourself. These will help me analyze my own hand histories, which is something I struggle with now.

This will be no issue, I have lost plenty of pots in my time and have no problem showing you spots when my bluffs have gone wrong. This episode was nonstandard lines for value, the next video is nonstandard lines as bluffs.

Thanks for this video. The rest of your series should be stellar!

Thanks