whitelime
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The 4-bet-fold from TKORampage, what hands could he be doing this with? All the strong rundowns can call the 5bet with this much money in the pot? KK** is probably a fold, but isn't it close if you want to 4bet good kings here in the first place?
You said that parasita played the hand pretty bad, but with the $192 dead money from TKORampage, his play turned out to be not so bad (ev-wise). I guess he just got lucky that rampage folded here, but wouldn't his play also been good if both of you got aces?
I am not playing plo for too long, but the main idea I get about these preflop spots is that it's really hard to make a big mistake. Several scenario's could happen where the move parasita made is break even or even +ev. Therefore, the overall ev of his play can't be that bad (given he minraist and callt the squeeze, I do agree that minraise utg was bad)?
He almost always has something like KKxy or AKQT. KK can't call there unless he has some reason to think I have non-AA.
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theRabidDoG
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regarding parasita's KQ87ss hand:
i agree that he shouldve folded pre flop and to your squeeze, but once he calls, and the other guy 4bets after having called pre and then you (whitelime) 5bets....both of you are going to have AA almost always.
if you run the simulation KQ87ss vs AA vs AA youll see that KQ87ss has 37% eq vs AA who have about 32% each so then its a call. if you factor in that the other guy probably doesnt have premium AA since he sandbagged instead of 3betting right away that might bump the KQ87 eq another percent or two (just guessing here but if you think about it, it makes sense...hard to run a simulation for that though).
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poon8855
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laguuni
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Ms.Bungle
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Mcdonkey_
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What I don't understand is that 90% of comments are about preflop play. I mean who plays 2-4$ up, should know something about this. I would rather have comments about adjustments that you make, when you see what others are doing and how to make pressure vs passive opponents and how to counterfeit aggressive opponents.....
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lonely_squirrel
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The left hand side K56r flop. Why wouldn't you call here for a smallish pot bet when its a rainbow board? You have the good end of an oesd, and it's a badugi hand on a rainbow board. Both ends are to nut straights too since you have the TJ overcards. Aside from a rainbow flop containing a 9, I'm not sure what you're trying to flop.
The player in the middle is pretty much never checkraising when he's in the middle position of a limped pot, so I don't accept the argument that the player behind makes the hand less playable. If anything, she might call improving your implied odds. Having nut outs here I just don't see the concern.
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Marinus
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