La Girl
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cwil81
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In the hand where you got crai on turn, I feel like Phil Galfond would disagree with choosing a betsize of pot here... Seems like choosing an amount you could potentially be bet/folding would be better? Potting there indicates that you are always committed, no?
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whitelime
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In the hand where you got crai on turn, I feel like Phil Galfond would disagree with choosing a betsize of pot here... Seems like choosing an amount you could potentially be bet/folding would be better? Potting there indicates that you are always committed, no?
You want to indicate that you are committed because you want hands like AAJx and AAQx or AKxy to just fold.
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whitelime,
when we bet the flop here is it for protection mostly? If he has any queen with a flush draw here, we only have 35% equity here. I guess I dont see much value in this hand.
In this spot w/ only one pair, I usually check behind since theres so little turn cards we can comfortably barrel (5,8,A not of dimonds, eight spades for a backdoor fd). I also dont like building up a big pot with only one pair.
I just dont see him folding on this flop enough to make cbetting profitable alone, and IMO, your building a pot with a weak/vulnerable hand. Could you explain a little more why we bet the flop here?
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whitelime
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whitelime,
when we bet the flop here is it for protection mostly? If he has any queen with a flush draw here, we only have 35% equity here. I guess I dont see much value in this hand.
In this spot w/ only one pair, I usually check behind since theres so little turn cards we can comfortably barrel (5,8,A not of dimonds, eight spades for a backdoor fd). I also dont like building up a big pot with only one pair.
I just dont see him folding on this flop enough to make cbetting profitable alone, and IMO, your building a pot with a weak/vulnerable hand. Could you explain a little more why we bet the flop here?
Your thinking is backwards. You should be checking hands like AKQJ here that have a lot of cards that can improve your hand nicely but still isn't strong enough to bet and call a c/r with on the flop. With AQ85, there is really no card we want to see on the turn other than an A or Q so you should just bet and try to take it down right there.
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insyder19
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fantastic series emil. you really got me into playing lots of PLO now and be inspired about poker once again given how interesting this game is =)
now what i have trouble with is:
- what type of boards are good to c/r?
- what do you do when you get c/r on what type of boards?
am i correct if i say that if we have 7xxxx on K72r and we get c/r hes more likely to be bluffing given we have a 7 or say 77xx in our hand? is it true that in PLO you cannot be c/r for value as thinly as you can in NL? especially on dry boards?
also it would be interesting to hear what type of hands are good to 3bet IP and OOP depending on if someone opened early or late position.
other than that, hope a lot of more episodes are coming as the game itself is so complicated. please dont shut down too early!
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whitelime
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Somewhat confused here... mostly because at the end of the video you give him all the credit in the world for having a monster because hes a nit.
Im not really loving the 9752ds against what his opening range is...
Yeah this was too loose. Would need it to be 9754.
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TheLamia
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The 4-bet-fold from TKORampage, what hands could he be doing this with? All the strong rundowns can call the 5bet with this much money in the pot? KK** is probably a fold, but isn't it close if you want to 4bet good kings here in the first place?
You said that parasita played the hand pretty bad, but with the $192 dead money from TKORampage, his play turned out to be not so bad (ev-wise). I guess he just got lucky that rampage folded here, but wouldn't his play also been good if both of you got aces?
I am not playing plo for too long, but the main idea I get about these preflop spots is that it's really hard to make a big mistake. Several scenario's could happen where the move parasita made is break even or even +ev. Therefore, the overall ev of his play can't be that bad (given he minraist and callt the squeeze, I do agree that minraise utg was bad)?
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