Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by NLFool (Micro/Small Stakes)

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the opponent ur up against is a legend in these games. the thing im wondering here is yeah his range is wide, but ur cbet gives the impression of close to 0 fold equity to me. so doesn't his shoving range here almost always have to be AK+? I guess hes still shoving like AJs/ATs/QJs type hands, but is he really shoving a 78s type hand here?

doesn't this raise sizing somewhat overrep your hand as like QQ? i feel like when i reraise in this spot i'm only running into sets. as far as the fold equity argument i somewhat agree but just seems like this player might not quite have an airball or JJ type shove in him here, i think his shove is only flush draws and sets which against that shoving range seems like your way behind.

In this hand when he raised me I thought the range of hands that have me crushed or have a ton of equity against me after he raises are very narrow due to the board texture. The only hands he can have here that he would be raising for value are 77, 55, and QQ. Hands like Q7, Q5 and 57s are just not in a 14/10 UTG PFR range. Any 5x hand for that matter is likely not in his UTG PFR range so him holding a combo draw such with a 5 in it is very unlikely. 89s is the only possible combo draw in his range PF here and against a 14/10 with a 32% ATT to steal that is very unlikely.

We can extrapolate from the HUD data that this player is positionally aware
and in my experience 89s is just not in a 14/10 with a 32 att to steal raising range, a 14/10 who steals 32% has an extremely tight range in early position.

When you factor in his fold to 3 bet was 56% we are 144 BB deep and he has position, I expect his calling range of my 3 bet to be a lot wider then normal, and it's wide to begin with. I am behind QQ, 77 and 55, I am ahead of and a large favorite vs everything else in his range

Given his range of hands, which would be sets, flush draws,KK/AA Qx hands, air and the occasional JJ/1010 type hand I am crushing his range of hands and that is why I felt comfortable stacking off here 144 BB deep

Lets add the extreme end of his range and include a hand like 89 of hearts. Against a combo draw such as 89 of hearts im a 57/43 favorite in the hand, as I hold the A of hearts.

I don't understand how my raise sizing seems to over rep my hand? The last thing you want to be doing here is to announce to the villain that I'm going to stack off and since I believe calling is bad here in this spot due to the fact that I expect almost his entire range to check behind on the turn due to the fact that a turn bet commits himself, the best option in this spot for me is to raise. I could call the raise and lead the turn but in my opinion that looks a lot stronger then my line because any turn lead by me would be commit him due to stack sizes.

A lot of players will raise here deep with air/marginal hands or Flush draws but very few will commit themselves with a follow up turn bet with air/marginal hand when I flat based on previous action, and a turn bet here would commit him.

Therefore my options are the following, 1) Fold which is out of the question due to hand ranges 2) Call, check the turn and allow him to check behind and take a free card, 3) Call the raise and lead the turn 4) Shove over top of his raise 5) Raise him very small and induce a call from a hand like AQ, KQ possibly even JJ or 1010 which would most likely fold to a shove or possibly induce a shove from air or his flush draws (I'm a 67% favorite vs Flush draws)

I agree that it's very unlikely this player is shoving JJ as a bluff here (I believe I mention that in the video) but some players will, and all players bluff some % of the time and I don't ever want to deny my opponent the opportunity to bluff.

How often have you seen someone raise pre flop, bet-3bet a 952 flop and fold to a shove after putting in 35% of their stack? It happens enough and I wanted to have the appearance of being able to do the same thing. I put in 35% of my stack in that spot which does have the appearance of some fold equity if he were to shove overtop.

i know this guy 4 bets a ton, which obv most is bluffs. but is it safe to assume a vast majority of those 4bet bluffs or light 4bets come in more late position situations? should we really be assuming hes 4betting light from utg? this also seems like a spot where your imagine can be taken into account. given how laggy/crazy your playing i agree that personally you can be getting AK in here becuz he will be 4bet bluffing you in this spot a ton. but someone that is playing more like a 16/12 with a 3-4% 3bet, will he ever really be 4betting that player type light from utg?

A lot of those 4 bet bluffs will be coming from late position situations but here's the thing, ask yourself if your facing a 4 bet what look stronger to you, a raise then 4 bet from an UTG who you 3 bet or a raise then 4 bet from the cutoff/button when you 3 bet from the blinds?
A villain with such a massive 4 bet range wil be 4 bet bluffing UTG with a higher then normal frequency then other players.

When you look at the HUD data, you can extropolate that villain has a wide opening range, a somewhat high fold to 3 bet, and an extremely high 4 bet range. To compensate for having to fold most of his EP raising range a competent villain will be 4 betting with a higher then normal frequency in EP to combat regs 3 betting his EP opens light.

I don't really think my image can be taken into account all that much on that table vs that villain because if you notice thru out the video on that particular table I wasn't doing much at all. I wasn't opening a ton because he was opening before me so a lot of the hands that I could have opened were 3 bet or fold situations and I folded almost all of them. I also limped behind several times on the button on that table with marginal hands due to the fish limping in ahead of me, so my image on that table wasn't that extreme at all.

I believe during that session before I made the move with AK that particular villain had already raised then 4 bet about 4 times previously vs different players so I thought it extremely likely he would do the same vs me.

And yes I do beleive that a person with such a high 4 bet range will be 4 betting light vs a 16/12 with a 4% 3 bet from UTG especially if hes a reg because regs are going to know thats hes opening wide and folding with a high frequency to 3 bets.

the opponent ur up against is a legend in these games. the thing im wondering here is yeah his range is wide, but ur cbet gives the impression of close to 0 fold equity to me. so doesn't his shoving range here almost always have to be AK+? I guess hes still shoving like AJs/ATs/QJs type hands, but is he really shoving a 78s type hand here?

I believe one of my greatest strengths is hand reading, and to be able to effectively use my HUD and interpret the date derived from it.

My read on this player is that he's a fish, or a regfish and I base that on the information that I have in my HUD. Looking at several of his stats in my HUD is what I base this on. 36% fold to 3 bet, large gap between PFR and VPIP, WTSD of 27% floating 60% of flops vs a PFR, 29% steal atempt with a VPIP of 19 etc. Individually most of these stats don't mean much on their own, but taken as a whole these stats are not indicative of a very good player.

Because I beleive this player to be not very good I believe it's quite possible he would raise with flush draws here like 78s. It's extrapolating a little bit but I had a read and went with it.

Flatting with AK in his spot is awful in my opinion, especially when hes not closing the action and it's quite possible the pot can become 3 way.

If a player is going to be flatting with AK in this spot ( in my opinion it's bad move) he's def capable of getting it in on this flop with flush draws even when it looks like 0 fold equity.

Again, it comes down to hand ranges and post flop play. In particular the frequency in which he is contiuing past the flop, which in his case is 60% in single raised pots and 61% in 3 bet pots.

I believe I mentioned in the video that my decision to stack off here was based on stats, in particular his fold to 3 bet and his continuing range in a 3bet pot and by no means in this a fistpump call, it's close but I am one to push a lot of small edges.

If this was a player who had a much higher fold to 3 bet and a much lower continuing range in 3 bet pots past the flop my decision would have been much harder and folding would have been a very real possibility in that spot. However in that spot vs a diff villain its very likely that my flop cbet sizing would have been different.

Legend, I'm not sure what you mean? I was curious by your statement and his winrate is dismal over 1 million hands which kind of confirms my initial impressions of a not so great player.

Legend, I'm not sure what you mean? I was curious by your statement and his winrate is dismal over 1 million hands which kind of confirms my initial impressions of a not so great player.

Thanks for all the thorough responses. Good stuff. As far as the legend comment I meant it in a negative connotation as he plays a ton, but basically never adjusts his game and hasn't made a single improvement in ages. Everyone knows who he is, but nobody is afraid of him.

As far as the AK 4bet hand. I have started thinking about 4betting 3bets of my utg raise a bit more. Because I raise fairly wide. In most cases 22+ and depending on table dynamics maybe even A9s+. And I do find these guys with like 8% button and cutoff 3bets just 3betting me liberally. So occasionally i take the bottom end of my range that might have an A blocker and turn it into a 4bet. I feel this is good since I'm 100% repping AA given I'm raise/4betting from UTG, and I have an A in my hand. I just didn't know how prevelant this thought process was amongst other players yet. Which is why I wasn't sure if that player was doing much light UTG 4betting.

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When your checking back that KT hand on an AKxs flop Do you also check back your air to balance your range that way? What hands are you betting? Also I am assuming your only checking back hands like that vs regs as fishy players you can get more value by betting flop and turn?

Very nice video! Do you have screenshots of your HUD color coding?

@JohnTheBad: You can very profitable 4bet light @50NL on Stars. Many Regs just 3bet light without much thoughts but obv don't have the guts to 5bet shove with K3s.

ive been shoved on light a bunch with T3s JTo and some other junk lol

Good Vid. Thanks.

I just wanted to mention next time I do a video like this where I'm stealing all the time I will have to cut it down to 4 tables.

I thought 6 was fine. You could always pause if things get sticky, but I thought you did a great job explaining the action from table to table and everything was very clear.

I believe one of my greatest strengths is hand reading, and to be able to effectively use my HUD and interpret the date derived from it.

Definitely picked up some things on HUD use. Thanks

When your checking back that KT hand on an AKxs flop Do you also check back your air to balance your range that way? What hands are you betting? Also I am assuming your only checking back hands like that vs regs as fishy players you can get more value by betting flop and turn?

Yes this balancing range is only vs regs, no need to balance your range against the fish, unless they are reg fish. I am more likely to bet my air hands there then a hand with SD value.

When checking behind on that flop texture, my hand is pretty much face up as a marginal hand so to balance my range in those spots, I will check back some of the stronger Ax hands in my range as well as take some of the marginal hands to show down with a higher then normal frequency against villains who will try and get me to fold my marginal hand

I thought the video was excellent.

I think the 6 table format is fine for FR.

2 or 4 tables is a bit slow for me.

I dont tend to check back IP very much which is obviously a weak part of my game.

I tend to bet too much, fearing free cards. I obviously miss value.

I also get bit too excited when I flop sets against good players although I have tried to think more about bet sizing to commit them or maybe give them the impression I am weaker than I am without slowplaying too much.

I actually liked the fact you flopped some big hands in this video as a lot of money is won and lost in these key situations.

Extracting the most value vs various opponents is key and I learned some new tricks in bet sizing.

I need to think more clearly in these situations.

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How do you know that 'his range is so narrow for value' when you re-raise with AA? How do you know that you are ahead of his range to play for stacks at this spot?

Thanks!

How do you know that 'his range is so narrow for value' when you re-raise with AA? How do you know that you are ahead of his range to play for stacks at this spot?

Thanks!

I covered this already earlier in the thread but here is a copy/paste of my reasoning for you:

In this hand when he raised me I thought the range of hands that have me crushed or have a ton of equity against me after he raises are very narrow due to the board texture. The only hands he can have here that he would be raising for value are 77, 55, and QQ. Hands like Q7, Q5 and 57s are just not in a 14/10 UTG PFR range. Any 5x hand for that matter is likely not in his UTG PFR range so him holding a combo draw such with a 5 in it is very unlikely. 89s is the only possible combo draw in his range PF here and against a 14/10 with a 32% ATT to steal that is very unlikely.

We can extrapolate from the HUD data that this player is positionally aware
and in my experience 89s is just not in a 14/10 with a 32 att to steal raising range, a 14/10 who steals 32% has an extremely tight range in early position.

When you factor in his fold to 3 bet was 56% we are 144 BB deep and he has position, I expect his calling range of my 3 bet to be a lot wider then normal, and it's wide to begin with. I am behind QQ, 77 and 55, I am ahead of and a large favorite vs everything else in his range

Given his range of hands, which would be sets, flush draws,KK/AA Qx hands, air and the occasional JJ/1010 type hand I am crushing his range of hands and that is why I felt comfortable stacking off here 144 BB deep

Lets add the extreme end of his range and include a hand like 89 of hearts. Against a combo draw such as 89 of hearts im a 57/43 favorite in the hand, as I hold the A of hearts.

I don't understand how my raise sizing seems to over rep my hand? The last thing you want to be doing here is to announce to the villain that I'm going to stack off and since I believe calling is bad here in this spot due to the fact that I expect almost his entire range to check behind on the turn due to the fact that a turn bet commits himself, the best option in this spot for me is to raise. I could call the raise and lead the turn but in my opinion that looks a lot stronger then my line because any turn lead by me would be commit him due to stack sizes.

A lot of players will raise here deep with air/marginal hands or Flush draws but very few will commit themselves with a follow up turn bet with air/marginal hand when I flat based on previous action, and a turn bet here would commit him.

Therefore my options are the following, 1) Fold which is out of the question due to hand ranges 2) Call, check the turn and allow him to check behind and take a free card, 3) Call the raise and lead the turn 4) Shove over top of his raise 5) Raise him very small and induce a call from a hand like AQ, KQ possibly even JJ or 1010 which would most likely fold to a shove or possibly induce a shove from air or his flush draws (I'm a 67% favorite vs Flush draws)

I agree that it's very unlikely this player is shoving JJ as a bluff here (I believe I mention that in the video) but some players will, and all players bluff some % of the time and I don't ever want to deny my opponent the opportunity to bluff.

How often have you seen someone raise pre flop, bet-3bet a 952 flop and fold to a shove after putting in 35% of their stack? It happens enough and I wanted to have the appearance of being able to do the same thing. I put in 35% of my stack in that spot which does have the appearance of some fold equity if he were to shove overtop

Thanks... However, what if he is a 14/12 that will only play for stacks there with a set? Aren't you just giving set mining odds by playing like this? I'm asking this because this is a big issue for me when it comes to playing for stacks when I only have an overpair, if you could clarify to me how can you not be exploited by set miners with this play.

Thank you!

Thanks... However, what if he is a 14/12 that will only play for stacks there with a set? Aren't you just giving set mining odds by playing like this? I'm asking this because this is a big issue for me when it comes to playing for stacks when I only have an overpair, if you could clarify to me how can you not be exploited by set miners with this play.

Thank you!

During the video I stated that my 3 bet was a little small since we are a little deep, however I have AA and I want action so no mater my 3 bet size preflop i am going to offer set mining odds preflop unless I am willing to 3 bet to $30 or make some sort of really high 3 bet size which is not what I want to do here.

I'm not sure what you mean by exploited? You mean exploited preflop or postflop?

During the video I stated that my 3 bet was a little small since we are a little deep, however I have AA and I want action so no mater my 3 bet size preflop i am going to offer set mining odds preflop unless I am willing to 3 bet to $30 or make some sort of really high 3 bet size which is not what I want to do here.

I'm not sure what you mean by exploited? You mean exploited preflop or postflop?

I mean exploited both preflop and postflop... If I know that you will put all your stack in the flop with AA I can call that 3bet profitably with any pair trying to hit my set.

In my case, when I have AA and make a small 3bet against a tight player like that one I actually try not to play for stacks, I might make a reraise like you did but I'm folding to a shove... I don't know, this might be a leak on my game, and it is obviously exploitable as well, but in general I would not expect a tight player 14/12 to go that far with only a pair postflop.

Don't know, just my reasoning, obviously I'm just the student here