Poker Video: No Limit Hold'Em by DOGISHEAD (Micro/Small Stakes)

I would be so fucking scared to play either of you HU after watching these.
That said, probably the best series I have ever seen.

Another great vid.

One niggle: it seems that an analysis of 4betting that depends upon the idea that your opponent is going to either shove or fold is becoming less and less relevant. In the games I play flatting 4bets has become the norm (with whatever junk they'd 3bet- 45s, 97s), and then a crai flop or open shove with any piece. Obviously this is going to change our 4bet strategy quite a lot, e.g. 4betting ATo folding to shove might be good against these types.

Anyway, I hope in the future to see some discussion of how this change in the games is going to effect a) our 4bet range, b) our 4bet size. And, of course, how to play 4bet pots post-flop with 100bb stacks.

I thought it was particularly interesting about the analogy of the river and ranges. I was wondering how to figure out an opponents frequency. For example I have A8 which I raise PF, he flats and I see a flop of A93, two hearts (I have no hearts) I cbet, he check raises, turn is a blank 2 he fires. River pairs the 3 so the board reads A9323 and I have A8 and he shoves the river. Now, lets say I know he is doing this with all, better aces + flopped sets + flopped 2 pair combos, all worse aces and some of the time with missed hearts. The times he doesn't decide to shove the missed hearts, he would have just chked the river. Now I know his range he shows up with on the river Ax, 33, 99, AA and all his suited one gapper hearts and suited connectors hearts lets say 6h5h+. How would I determine if this is a call or not, I'd suspect it has something to do with how often he is shoving the hearts vs how often he decided to give up on the river, but that's something I'm having trouble with, how do I determine someone's frequencies.

My oh my... this is simply the best series I have ever seen. Only words that comes to mind right now. This is so so soooooo good would please delete those videos asap

Another great vid.

One niggle: it seems that an analysis of 4betting that depends upon the idea that your opponent is going to either shove or fold is becoming less and less relevant. In the games I play flatting 4bets has become the norm (with whatever junk they'd 3bet- 45s, 97s), and then a crai flop or open shove with any piece. Obviously this is going to change our 4bet strategy quite a lot, e.g. 4betting ATo folding to shove might be good against these types.

Anyway, I hope in the future to see some discussion of how this change in the games is going to effect a) our 4bet range, b) our 4bet size. And, of course, how to play 4bet pots post-flop with 100bb stacks.

Well, if your opponent seems to be one who's calling your 4-bets often and not folding if he hits anything, then the optimal counterstrategy is pretty simple - 4-bet hands like AT, KQ, 99 for value, and occasionally throw in hands like K7 or A8 or whatever as bluffs. C-bet flops relentlessly except for ones which you think hit your opponent's flatting range hard, and c-bet very small in relation to the pot when you do c-bet. The simple fact is your opponent will be forced to play mostly fit or fold, and if you get your opponent playing fit or fold in a 4-bet pot with a weak out of position range, then you're making a lot of money even if you have two napkins.

I thought it was particularly interesting about the analogy of the river and ranges. I was wondering how to figure out an opponents frequency. For example I have A8 which I raise PF, he flats and I see a flop of A93, two hearts (I have no hearts) I cbet, he check raises, turn is a blank 2 he fires. River pairs the 3 so the board reads A9323 and I have A8 and he shoves the river. Now, lets say I know he is doing this with all, better aces + flopped sets + flopped 2 pair combos, all worse aces and some of the time with missed hearts. The times he doesn't decide to shove the missed hearts, he would have just chked the river. Now I know his range he shows up with on the river Ax, 33, 99, AA and all his suited one gapper hearts and suited connectors hearts lets say 6h5h+. How would I determine if this is a call or not, I'd suspect it has something to do with how often he is shoving the hearts vs how often he decided to give up on the river, but that's something I'm having trouble with, how do I determine someone's frequencies.

Well, of course when you actually get to any spot like this, every frequency evaluation is made through intuition. But if you want to analyze frequencies away from the table and better attune your instincts to the situation, then running a simulation with PokerStove is generally going to be the best way to figure this out. I can already tell you though that with your assumptions, A8 will be a snapcall.

That being said, a spot like this is pretty difficult because there are so many different possible river strategies he can have for bluffing, and the information in your post aren't enough to have an inkling of an idea of how often he's bluffing hearts. So a good alternative to looking at what we believe his range is, we can look instead at what we'd consider to be his breakeven range.

I.E., we assume that this hand is a 0EV call. Say he's shoving pot on the river, then we need to be right 33% of the time for our call to be 0EV. If we assume he's jamming all worse aces (which seems a pretty bad assumption actually, I'd discount this pretty heavily. But for the sake of the hypothetical let's pretend he's jamming A5 and A3 and everything else) and jamming all better hands and then some flush draws, we construct a range of hands that we think he's playing 100% of the time in the same way as we see the hand go down. So first, we look at the hands that beat us - A9, 99, 33. We see that this is 2.5% of all hands (or whatever it is), and he's playing all of these hands this way always. So in order for this hand to be a breakeven call, he has to be bluffshoving 1/2 of 2.5% of hands, because his range has to be 66% valuebets and 33% bluffs for the call to be breakeven. Since clearly A3 and A2 are more than 1.25% of hands, under this model even without any busted draws in his shoving range A8 is a call. But you can see that it's pretty damn hard to grade his shoving range on the river so as not to include 1.25% of all hands that you beat.

When you're doing this and adding bluffs, it's important to mitigate individual frequencies. That is, if you think he's c/ring the flop with flushdraws only 50% of the time, that means you can arbitrarily take out 50% of all of the flushdraws that you thought he could have preflop. Then if you think he's jamming the river with a bluff only 30% of the time, then get rid of 70% of the 50% of flushdraws that are left, and then that becomes his river jamming range. If his bluffing range is half or more of his valuebetting range, then it's call. This is basically how I'd break that hand down concretely.

Sorry if I'm a little incoherent as I am rather sleepy.

So first, we look at the hands that beat us - A9, 99, 33. We see that this is 2.5% of all hands (or whatever it is), and he's playing all of these hands this way always. So in order for this hand to be a breakeven call, he has to be bluffshoving 1/2 of 2.5% of hands, because his range has to be 66% valuebets and 33% bluffs for the call to be breakeven. Since clearly A3 and A2 are more than 1.25% of hands, under this model even without any busted draws in his shoving range A8 is a call. But you can see that it's pretty damn hard to grade his shoving range on the river so as not to include 1.25% of all hands that you beat.

I'm confused about the 1/2 of 2.5% number. its obvious that we need him to be bluffing 1/3 of the time to make the call 0EV. but that said if hes bluffshoving 50% of this static range weve assigned him doesnt that make the call inherently +EV? Wouldn't he only need to be bluffshoving 1/3 of the 2.5% to get to breakeven. I'm sure this is something simple thats throwing me for a loop..

I'm confused about the 1/2 of 2.5% number. its obvious that we need him to be bluffing 1/3 of the time to make the call 0EV. but that said if hes bluffshoving 50% of this static range weve assigned him doesnt that make the call inherently +EV? Wouldn't he only need to be bluffshoving 1/3 of the 2.5% to get to breakeven. I'm sure this is something simple thats throwing me for a loop..

Indeed it is something simple.

Note that I didn't say he's shoving 50% of his static range as bluffs, but simply that he's shoving a bluffing range equal to 50% of his valuebetting range. I'm not sure whether this was the misunderstanding, but if it wasn't, allow me to elucidate hte point.

If you're bluffing 1/3 of the time that you're valuebetting, and ofc it has to add up to 100% total, then 100 = x + (1/3)x. x, of course, = valuebetting percentage.

100 = 4/3 x
100 * 3/4 = x
75 = x

So to be bluffing 1/3 of the time you're valuebetting, then your valuebetting frequency is 75% and your bluffing frequency is 25% - if we were thinking about calling a PSB, we'd have to fold given these frequencies. However, of course, for the VB : Bluff ratio to be equivalent to 66:33 (the breakeven point for a call), the valuebetting to bluffing ratio has to be 2:1. Hence, he has to be bluffing at least 1/2 of his valuebetting range. That's why I worked it out to half of 2.5%.

Hopefully this clarifies things.

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that action/range flow chart thing was a really nice metaphor. you are way too smart and articulate and you should never make a video again.

On the 4 bet bluffing example aren't we risking 21 to gain 13 since we've already invested $3 into the pot,so the EV on a 4 bet bluff should be +4.5BB.
Anyway this is an awesome video and will go a long way in helping my heads up game. Keep up the good work.

I got confused here as well, but turns out

((0.7424*10)+(0.2576*-24))+3 = 4.24 (math in the video)

is the same as

(0.7424*13)+(0.2576*-21)

Oh yeah. Please Gman, don't be so modest. You definitely must be a great headsup player, EVEN if you're in practice not as good as in theory. By being great you inspire others, so please don't downgrade it because I, and many others, have (already) learned a great amount from this series and that's not an understatement

Hi, i am a little bit confused about the math @ 37.18 with the 5betshove with AQo;

you said: 38.68 * 200 = 77,36 or -22,64bb

what i think is (learned it from the mathematics serie from wiltontilt):

our equity * what we win - our equity * what we lose
OR
our equity * total pot - call(/shove)

so that will be

0.3868 * 110(our 3bet from 10bb + his 100bb) - 0.6132 * 90 = -12.64
OR
0.3868 * 200 - 90 = -12.64

and you came out on -22.64

I hope you'll respond after those 5 months

You make a great point there Mendez. I would suggests that you play post-flop depending on what type of players you are playing with. with an aggressive player you wouldn't try to float if you miss the flop and he bets just fold. but in general I think that you should play it aggressively since you will usually have a stronger range of hand post flop.

hi,

I have a question on how to do review post session. Do I just replay all my hands for the day in holdem manager replayer and pick out interesting ones and post on forum? Or should I go through my database and see who I've lost the most money to or won the most money from? Basically how do people do post session reviews, I'm searching for some structured approach to doing this.

Many thanks

I like to mark my hands in this small HEM HUD review window where I'm unsure what the best play is. After the session you can click on "show marked hands only" in your reports tab to review them. If you're still unsure what the best play is after reviewing or just want to get some thoughts about your hand, post it.

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What would you say an optiomal 3b calling range is against someone 3betting ~15%