such great 'other games' coverage this season guys.
Worth watching just for Joe Tall actually speechless around the 7m mark!
Joe Tall is playing against David "Chino" Rheem in HU HORSE at the high stakes.
Joe Tall plays HU Horse. He takes mixed games to the extreme in this series where he faces off against a single opponent and talks of the differences between full and HU games.
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such great 'other games' coverage this season guys.
Worth watching just for Joe Tall actually speechless around the 7m mark!
first HU limit section:
09:03 AK: Turns out that on that turn you have 30% equity against a 35%-40% 3betting range, i assume he leads his entire range on that turn, you are getting 20% pot odds to call his turn lead
09:40 JT on T656: I think this would be closer if you had AT, but with just JT i don't think you can 3bet profitably. Sure he has air and 87 97 etc a fair amount, but calling and inducing a river barrel will get you that extra BB anyway most of the time, and you save yourself bets vs better Ts and 6x and overpairs. Even if we put hands like A5 in his range, there's just not enough of them against the the hands you are behind, and many of these combos will punish you with a cap.
10:05 T2: i betfold that river for value, you beat PPs, 98, J9 etc.
10:37 J9 on 678-A-2: i would much rather a turn raise as a semibluff than a river one
11:07 T7 on 985-T: I think the turn raise is too thin, i would just call down and induce from the single heart hands
2nd set:
- K6o not a fan of the turn checkraise, you are targetting exactly A high here and some of the time this will be checked back on the flop. I doubt any 2x or 4x will fold: the only time they will is when a heart falls on the riv (when you don't really want them to!). You've got a nice hand that can xc the turn and xf the river.
- 24:05 K9 - i don't checkraise this flop for the same reasons as above really. As played if you are going to betcall, i would rather checkcall. But out of all options i like betfold, he is bluffing some of the time but many hands he won't turn in to bluffs - not sure if he's smart enough to turn 4x in to a bluff. But his range is very heavy in single diamond hands.
[edit after watching results: well i never... horrid call by him on the turn, i didnt expect him to have that in his range ]
25:25 - K7s again i don't checkraise this flop, it's not really for value, it's not really a semibluff as better hands wont fold at least before river... interested to see if other, more aggro HU players fastplay this kind of high-card draw
set 3: I play every hand the same, except maybe the 32o checkraise. I think that's fine by default, against this guy I would just checkfold, he is playing back way too much and rebluffing, i would strengthen my ranges throughout and catch the spew (he demonstrates that in this hand by making a pretty bad calldown with AJ high on a bad board. So if he's making calldowns like this I want him to compound his error by having a stronger - more value-orientated checkraise range, and lines in general.)
Great vid, the H portion seems to play much bigger than the other games, would you agree? Much bigger pots, many more showdowns. You pretty much owned him for 40 mins that lose a couple of medium-big HE hands that swings the match.
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Joe:
sometimes when you are talking about opening ranges in the stud games you seem to flipflop.
at times its 'he has 100% of hands' and others, like here, you suggest that its likely he has a 4 flush. he has ATC in the hole here, which some portion of the time is a 4 flush or 3 flush, but is like to be 2 random cards.
I've noticed this in other videos too when you defend and a card fits in with the shown board for opponent and you start to see monsters under the bed.
I think its totally different in 8 handed games or in a situation where he brings in and then defends, as its obviously much more likely that he has the cards underneath that a 4th heart (or a connected card) would represent. But in this case, against a super aggro villain, assuming he has anything other than 4 random cards is probably a mistake.
Obviously you know stud WAY better than I do, but this is a trend I've noticed and maybe you can comment on it. I don't want to sound overly negative, as I have learned a lot about stud games from you.
Thanks
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folding T5o in a 2/3 structure is a pretty clear mistake even against an aggro 3bettor imo.
you're hand makes ok pairs and you're getting a good price. i don't even think i fold this against him in a 1/3 structure.
Joe:
sometimes when you are talking about opening ranges in the stud games you seem to flipflop.
at times its 'he has 100% of hands' and others, like here, you suggest that its likely he has a 4 flush. he has ATC in the hole here, which some portion of the time is a 4 flush or 3 flush, but is like to be 2 random cards.
I've noticed this in other videos too when you defend and a card fits in with the shown board for opponent and you start to see monsters under the bed.
I think its totally different in 8 handed games or in a situation where he brings in and then defends, as its obviously much more likely that he has the cards underneath that a 4th heart (or a connected card) would represent. But in this case, against a super aggro villain, assuming he has anything other than 4 random cards is probably a mistake.
Obviously you know stud WAY better than I do, but this is a trend I've noticed and maybe you can comment on it. I don't want to sound overly negative, as I have learned a lot about stud games from you.
Thanks
you adjust this a bunch by talking about the ATC more often through most of this video. i had only watched the first couple minutes when i made that comment
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against a massively agressive player that's opening 100% I can see an argument for 3 betting 3rd if hes capable of raise folding or calling and raising 4th on any good connected card. Gotta balance this with pairs obv
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cheno doesnt give a hoot about online poker lol. His plays are essentially always maniac fishy
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spew against that 6s board. I mean is he really showing down 5s after you 3 bet?
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how are you folding here with a 3 straight and 4 overs to anylikely hand he has? the pot is small but we are giving him free money
15:50 razz hand "i wouldn't doubt if he was full" i lol'd
17:05 (3J)8 NONONONO
how are you folding here with a 3 straight and 4 overs to anylikely hand he has? the pot is small but we are giving him free money
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