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Real Life No Limit Grinder Pro: Episode Eight

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Real Life No Limit Grinder Pro: Episode Eight by WiltOnTilt

WiltOnTilt and WhiteHeatSYD wrap up their series. WhiteHeatSYD has been playing on his own and has selected a few 6max and HU hands to review with WiltOnTilt.

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This series will pick up the story of WhiteHeatSYD and focus on what it takes to make the leap to pro and what’s needed to keep your edge vs the other pros.

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  • Game: nlhe
  • Stakes: Mid Stakes
  • 58 minutes long
  • Posted almost 2 years ago

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Comments for Real Life No Limit Grinder Pro: Episode Eight


IWinDumbass

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I play the hand the same way except when he bets 50$ into 100$ on river I Jam!! Would That be terribad?? On the river you have under represented you hand, he can be value betting lots of worse hands....How bad can a raise be here. What do you make of him bet sizing?? I am surprised he did not make it more like a Pot sized bet, and in the heat of battle I would have said that a 1/2 pot bet was more likely to be thin value and put him on A9,Q9...Yup I def would have jammed the river.

Posted about 2 years ago

Bruce77

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What if instead of J8 you have QJ in the last 6 handed hand, do you still fold?

Posted about 2 years ago

WhiteHeatSYD

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What if instead of J8 you have QJ in the last 6 handed hand, do you still fold?



I think with QJ it becomes super close, I am still not happy in this spot, as this guy was super passive (which I don't think was mentioned), so you may still be able to find a fold. The problem we have is that there are not a ton of worst hands that he can have here.

Posted about 2 years ago

9dJhQhKhAh

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Real Life NL Grinder Drinking Party! I am down for that! Dates please haha

Posted about 2 years ago

GKane

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Pretty bad to have a "Real life NL grinder PRO" edition finish with the PRO guy saying that he is going back to work... that's not too encouraging... the scope of this video should have been to show people that this can be done.. it doesn't do a very good job on the psychological part heh

Posted about 2 years ago

WhiteHeatSYD

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Pretty bad to have a "Real life NL grinder PRO" edition finish with the PRO guy saying that he is going back to work... that's not too encouraging...



I am only going back to work for 3 months, mainly for tax reasons. I intend to still continue to play a lot of poker. Interesting I am on track to have my biggest month since going full time....

Posted about 2 years ago

action_jp

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I am only going back to work for 3 months, mainly for tax reasons. I intend to still continue to play a lot of poker. Interesting I am on track to have my biggest month since going full time....


Sweet good work gogogo Smile

Posted about 2 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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Pretty bad to have a "Real life NL grinder PRO" edition finish with the PRO guy saying that he is going back to work... that's not too encouraging... the scope of this video should have been to show people that this can be done.. it doesn't do a very good job on the psychological part heh



Come on man, it's also called "REAL LIFE" NL Grinder. Would we have done better to try some cover up just to appease egos?

Cut Alex some slack please.

WoT

Posted about 2 years ago

Chazb0t

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Pretty bad to have a "Real life NL grinder PRO" edition finish with the PRO guy saying that he is going back to work... that's not too encouraging... the scope of this video should have been to show people that this can be done.. it doesn't do a very good job on the psychological part heh



So you would rather have a series called NL Grinder PRO with someone who has already made it? and that helps the rest of us how?

Posted about 2 years ago

hayes13

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Whiteheat and wiltontilt are serious ballers how dare you doubt them, plus it is a much better form then a highlight reel. I like how many strange spots come up and you get a better idea of game flow and adapting during games.
big ups for guys that manage to play poker for a living. It is really hard to play that consistently for long periods of time.

Posted about 2 years ago

9dJhQhKhAh

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What's is/was your target monthly income for switching to pro? That is, the amount that covers all expenses of living (rent, car, payments, etc.) and entertainment.

Also interesting that you're on track to having your biggest month, it's probably the psychological relief that a safety net provides (job). With that in mind, before returning to a full time pro maybe it's best to have 9 months expenses saved up. (I'm not sure what you had when you first turned pro, I just use 9 as an arbitrary number as that's what many businesses use for 'cash on hand' ie. another variation of a safety net)

Posted about 2 years ago

QuadDeuces

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Pretty bad to have a "Real life NL grinder PRO" edition finish with the PRO guy saying that he is going back to work... that's not too encouraging... the scope of this video should have been to show people that this can be done.. it doesn't do a very good job on the psychological part heh



1. Alex is a waaaay better player now. Alex's progression thru the various series really shows. So props to Aaron and Alex for all the hard work.

2. Alex's self-confessed main leak is tilt (and we don't see hands that provoke that in the vids). Fix tilt and I suspect you have a pro level of profit right now.

WDYT Alex and Wilt?

If tilt is the main leak are there key hand triggers that could form a vid series? In other words are there tilt triggers that go beyond the "psychological" vid series and are more lizard brain triggers? The tilt we go on before we consciously recognize it?

That would be my only complaint about the series. That is, Alex's main leak is tilt but it never gets worked on in this series. I don't think psych work alone solves tilt as there are deeper triggers.

Posted about 2 years ago

sforzisi

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1. Alex is a waaaay better player now. Alex's progression thru the various series really shows. So props to Aaron and Alex for all the hard work.

2. Alex's self-confessed main leak is tilt (and we don't see hands that provoke that in the vids). Fix tilt and I suspect you have a pro level of profit right now.

WDYT Alex and Wilt?

If tilt is the main leak are there key hand triggers that could form a vid series? In other words are there tilt triggers that go beyond the "psychological" vid series and are more lizard brain triggers? The tilt we go on before we consciously recognize it?

That would be my only complaint about the series. That is, Alex's main leak is tilt but it never gets worked on in this series. I don't think psych work alone solves tilt as there are deeper triggers.


Get Tommy Angelo in for bonus episode!

Posted about 2 years ago

WiltOnTilt

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1. Alex is a waaaay better player now. Alex's progression thru the various series really shows. So props to Aaron and Alex for all the hard work.

2. Alex's self-confessed main leak is tilt (and we don't see hands that provoke that in the vids). Fix tilt and I suspect you have a pro level of profit right now.

WDYT Alex and Wilt?

If tilt is the main leak are there key hand triggers that could form a vid series? In other words are there tilt triggers that go beyond the "psychological" vid series and are more lizard brain triggers? The tilt we go on before we consciously recognize it?

That would be my only complaint about the series. That is, Alex's main leak is tilt but it never gets worked on in this series. I don't think psych work alone solves tilt as there are deeper triggers.



You're definitely right. It's tough to capture the tilt on camera. I should have hired some ninjas to stake out his home in sydney with cameras to capture him breaking mice and calling off his stack in bad spots hehe Smile

Seriously though, at one point we went through his database and looked for some tilt hands because we wanted to show them. What we found is that the hands were mostly spots where the answers were clear and wouldn't make for much interesting commentary (I should say, the answers were clear when in the right frame of mind). I agree though it's too bad we couldn't figure out a way to better teach anti-tilt issues in the series...although i'd argue that the better you get at poker the less tilt will effect you.

Later this year I'm planning to do a poker philosophy series where I'm going to talk about my philosophies on tilt and other poker issues, so hopefully i can try to work some of this series shortcomings into that series.

WoT

Posted about 2 years ago




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