Poker Video: Limit Hold'Em by Joe Tall (Mid Stakes)

Sounds is way out of synch for this one guys on the flash, for example on the first hand you're talking about turning gin before you've even 3-bet preflop.

Sounds is way out of synch for this one guys on the flash, for example on the first hand you're talking about turning gin before you've even 3-bet preflop.

OK, we'll look into it, something must have happened during video production. We will do our best to get a version up today.

Give us a few hours, we'll get a new version up.

Sounds is way out of synch for this one guys on the flash, for example on the first hand you're talking about turning gin before you've even 3-bet preflop.

Same thing with the MP4.

WMV version is fine.

Sweetjazz: "Sometimes they get shortstacked and they just want to get all the money in and go home...well, they're already home, but they want to leave the computer."

Awesome.

Is the sound fixed? I has a jones for some old dog new trixes

Is the sound fixed? I has a jones for some old dog new trixes

Rusty was away before I put up a fixed copy for him to process. It's being worked on now. Sorry guys, this one is on me, I f-up the original.

New versions are posted. Enjoy.
-Rusty

77 should be a check fold against any one except very very good players who will value bet/bluff ace high on the turn.

True of False: Betting the turn with 78s (provided you don't actually turn the nuts) means you bet any river.

77 should be a check fold against any one except very very good players who will value bet/bluff ace high on the turn.

Really? I feel that is giving up to early, no? He still has all combinations of gut-shots that continue. I guess this type of player would check those hands however, if that what your point is.

True of False: Betting the turn with 78s (provided you don't actually turn the nuts) means you bet any river.

True.

Really? I feel that is giving up to early, no? He still has all combinations of gut-shots that continue. I guess this type of player would check those hands however, if that what your point is.

My point is most average/bad players will check gutshots. Some might raise them occasionally, which obviously sucks for us. The problem is that even against his draws he has tons of outs. Then, add in his pairs and our equity doesn't look so hot. I mean sweetjazz said in the vid, "our bet goes in bad." I think that's pretty much what he meant.

My point is most average/bad players will check gutshots. Some might raise them occasionally, which obviously sucks for us. The problem is that even against his draws he has tons of outs. Then, add in his pairs and our equity doesn't look so hot. I mean sweetjazz said in the vid, "our bet goes in bad." I think that's pretty much what he meant.

Yeah, I don't hate sometimes check/folding here. Especially since this is probably the lowest pair we 3bet SB vs UTG (maybe 66 too), I think it's not bad to check/fold 77 here, but bet/fold a hand like TT which has a bit more value (beats some midpairs plus has better equity vs AQ and AT).

True of False: Betting the turn with 78s (provided you don't actually turn the nuts) means you bet any river.

I think you're talking about the hand that is about 30-35 minutes in. Joe isolates with 87s in the CO versus two limpers (everyone else folds). He cbets a J54r flop and gets called only by one player (who earlier limp called down with A high). It depends on what the turn and river cards are, but I'd say generally yes, you should be planning to bluff the river unimproved if you bet the turn. The primary reason is that loose passive players often peel the flop with pretty weak hands, hoping to pick up some kind of draw on the turn. So their range will contain a lot of busted draws that are better hands than ours.

That said, this is another know-your-opponent situation. Isolation with a speculative hand like this (especially against two limpers and not having the button) is only going to be profitable if you are able to make good judgments about barreling. Players with extreme strategies (either peel too light but don't showdown much, or who call down much too light) are the best players to isolate because you will be able to make sound, informed turn and river decisions.