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Full Ring Squadron: Episode Seven

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Full Ring Squadron: Episode Seven by threads13, Nolan

Nolan and Threads13 team up again this week reviewing Threads13 play at 4 tables of $2/4 Full Ring NLHE.

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  • 63 minutes long
  • Posted almost 2 years ago

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actionjacson

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you guys said that wpr is really tight and the four bet is bad because we wouldnt four bet our big hands vrs a tight range with no bluffs, so we flat our aces vrs a tight player who is raising for value more often and has less bluffs? Can you guys clarify this?

Posted almost 2 years ago

Sounded Simple

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Nolan

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you guys said that wpr is really tight and the four bet is bad because we wouldnt four bet our big hands vrs a tight range with no bluffs, so we flat our aces vrs a tight player who is raising for value more often and has less bluffs? Can you guys clarify this?



Don't understand the question.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Gandalf the White

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stxs999

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[quote]Don't understand the question.[/quote

You don't understand someone asking you clarify your thought process?

Posted almost 2 years ago

Nolan

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[quote][quote]Don't understand the question.[/quote

You don't understand someone asking you clarify your thought process?[/quote]

Apparently not.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Chris MintZ

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Don't understand the question.
You don't understand someone asking you clarify your thought process?


I think that Nolan is just sick and doesn't feel like he gets paid enough to answer the questions. Thats just my thought process anyway. I'm not trying to be a pain or anything but I was really disappointed with this video as I was excited Nolan was in it and, hoping to hear some thought processes while I learned a lot about big juicy burgers and hand cut potato French fries and the Pancake house. I have yet to find some great videos where they expand on ideas and really get me thinking.

Posted almost 2 years ago

Chris MintZ

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you guys said that wpr is really tight and the four bet is bad because we wouldnt four bet our big hands vrs a tight range with no bluffs, so we flat our aces vrs a tight player who is raising for value more often and has less bluffs? Can you guys clarify this?



I was thinking about this a bit and since wpr 3bet range is so tight basically if he knows we know that then we wouldn't be 4betting with many hands as most of our opening range is crushed by his 3betting range and any hand we 4bet should be basically AA and KK. If wpr thinks hero is out of line he can basically shove anything and take it down as we put him on a tight range to begin with. Also most of the higher PP probably have more value in flatting and playing post flop. Correct me if I'm not on the right track Nolan

Posted almost 2 years ago

QuadDeuces

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~16:30 you fold 88 IP after UTG Raise and MP flat. Why?

~32:30 you call 66 OOP SB. Why?

What's your general approach with PPs at NL400 in an already raised Pot?

Posted almost 2 years ago

Nolan

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I was thinking about this a bit and since wpr 3bet range is so tight basically if he knows we know that then we wouldn't be 4betting with many hands as most of our opening range is crushed by his 3betting range and any hand we 4bet should be basically AA and KK. If wpr thinks hero is out of line he can basically shove anything and take it down as we put him on a tight range to begin with. Also most of the higher PP probably have more value in flatting and playing post flop. Correct me if I'm not on the right track Nolan




I feel like I'm being leveled here. I thought I explained this clearly in the video and frankly I don't think its possible for me to expand on it further. If someone is likely 3 betting you with a tight range, but is also a very good player, they know you aren't going to four bet nut value hands as often as you would against looser players. Take that info wherever you want to go with it.

I'm not sure how much further I can clarify on that.

Posted almost 2 years ago

rafdawg

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I feel like I'm being leveled here. I thought I explained this clearly in the video and frankly I don't think its possible for me to expand on it further. If someone is likely 3 betting you with a tight range, but is also a very good player, they know you aren't going to four bet nut value hands as often as you would against looser players. Take that info wherever you want to go with it.

I'm not sure how much further I can clarify on that.


could you elaborate on this a bit?

Posted almost 2 years ago

DiscoBisco

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threads13

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I feel like I'm being leveled here. I thought I explained this clearly in the video and frankly I don't think its possible for me to expand on it further. If someone is likely 3 betting you with a tight range, but is also a very good player, they know you aren't going to four bet nut value hands as often as you would against looser players. Take that info wherever you want to go with it.

I'm not sure how much further I can clarify on that.



I'm with ya, man. I felt like it was pretty well explained. It is possibly explained a little further...


I was thinking about this a bit and since wpr 3bet range is so tight basically if he knows we know that then we wouldn't be 4betting with many hands as most of our opening range is crushed by his 3betting range and any hand we 4bet should be basically AA and KK. If wpr thinks hero is out of line he can basically shove anything and take it down as we put him on a tight range to begin with. Also most of the higher PP probably have more value in flatting and playing post flop. Correct me if I'm not on the right track Nolan



In a nutshell, versus tight 3-betting ranges we have to have a tight value 4-betting range. When we have a tight 4-bet value range then we have to tight 4-bet bluffing range (maybe even non-existent).

Posted almost 2 years ago

threads13

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~16:30 you fold 88 IP after UTG Raise and MP flat. Why?



I feel like we discussed this in the video, but it's probably pretty close to a call just do to odds pre against the shorty. It's probably not a big deal either way though.


~32:30 you call 66 OOP SB. Why?




As I explained in the video, I think that his range is tight enough in this spot to set-mine even OOP. I do think it's a bit close though so I don't mind a fold or a call in this spot.


What's your general approach with PPs at NL400 in an already raised Pot?



It's a really broad question so it's difficult to answer in just a in a quick forum post. In a lot of spots OOP against stealers I am pretty unwilling to flat them. IP I am willing to play them to try to take some pots away. I've also been thinking about some other plays and stuff like that they I might discuss in a future video.

Posted almost 2 years ago




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