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Hey guys,

i wonder if you know some good books about time management, planning and dealing with ADHD?

Since I am getting pretty serious with my education i start to notice that ADHD gets in the way. It also have had a huge effect on playing poker. But that's maybe another discussion?

Thanks guys

snappie... one word: "adderall"

Its a game changer... It's so great at giving you focus that I even know people who 'do not' have ADHD and use it just to study before exams.

Ask your doctor for a script and after you try it... you will be a changed man.

I dont have adderall. I do use Ritalin

Another thing about medicin:
I also need to work on my planning and shit besides taking the med.
Its not a cure
I think you said that in the other thread about ADHD

hi snappie i read somewhere that ritalin is made from synthetic cocaine what do you think of that

Post on an ADHD forum you will get much better replies

ritalin is basically cocaine, check wiki. For people with coke addictions they give them liquid ritalin injections.

Secondly, there are downsides to amphetamines. They are extremely addictive and tend to get your stuck in a loop. IE playing diablo 3 you will play for really long periods of time and have trouble switching between tasks, insomnia, loss of appetite etc. These you should discuss with your doctor.

Since I was diagnosed my GF did a ton of research on the stuff. Apparently the german army use to give their soldiers amphetamines to help performance in WWII. They discontinued use after people would act really stupidly and aggressively. Ironically this is the time the US army started to give it to their soldiers.

I'm still not sure how it affects critical thinking and poker. This is likely something your doctor will have little knowledge of.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methylphenidate read here if you'd like to get more information on how it's synthesized

Just my 2 cents. I have ADHD, I took adderall for a several years, although I was told I needed to take it or Ritalin way before I accepted. I got off it about 9 months ago, it has not been easy learning to deal with all the problems of ADHD again, but I also think the adderall had some overall cognitive effects on me, but this I have to admit is only speculation cause I have no proof.

Overall I come from a school of thought that it makes up our individual personalities and it is best to work on non-drug remedies. I would be very interested if you would post any of the more interesting information you find. GL

I was actually thinking about this thread today and wanted to add to it, I want to expand on my so called effects, and add that [mostly] the benefits of a drug often greatly outweigh the side-effects.

Basically I realize to a great extent this is true even for me it is greatly frustrating to watch, listen, or (as some people can not understand) read something and end up have to re(action) the material because in fact my mind was somewhere else often triggered by some small part of the content I have just digested or as it were not digested at all... Most of all I want to say that I started to notice a stutter develop under specific circumstances, discontinuing adderall seems to not have corrected the problem. And, I also have other indescribable effects, maybe one day I will put my finger on them...

Overall point remains close to the same, but I really felt it would be prudent to add the additional information.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WroDEcG7tJc

I am getting deeper and deeper into learning about ADHD.
Russell Barkley has so much wisdom.

It was a long watch for me haha 1.21 hours of pure focus ;p

I read an article recently about recent research that went over the longer term effects of Adderal/Ritalin on children -- went over lots and lots of different studies and compared results. The conclusion was that there seemed to be a marked improved for the aggregate that took the drugs as far outcome but that after a few years that benefit completely disappeared.

I suspect that Adderal may be useful for adults who assistance getting through a certain portion of a life -- getting moving and organized -- but that for it to truly be helpful changes must be made by the person in order for the benefit to be sustained. I.E. figure how the drug will help you but also how you are going to get along without it since the benefits may diminish over time. And there are plenty of drawbacks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WroDEcG7tJc

I am getting deeper and deeper into learning about ADHD.
Russell Barkley has so much wisdom.

It was a long watch for me haha 1.21 hours of pure focus ;p

Sounds good to keep reading up on it rather than settle for any supposed answers, depending on how much time you have for it.

I have real problems with attention but no problems with hyperactivity, so could perhaps benefit from some kind of intervention but wouldn't fit the ADHD label.

Maybe you could try reading the guidelines here http://www.nice.org.uk/CG72 (pdf http://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/CG72/NICEGuidance) fwiw, I read some for mood disorders and personality disorders and was quite-very disappointed but every kind of problem is unique as far as research and treatment goes. And oh yeah they have nowhere near the resourses in the NHS here to follow the guidelines in detail even if they wanted to .

You definitely do NOT need hyperactivity, to have AD(H)D. I have ADD without hyperactivity. And I'm very sure - even though I was not diagnosed until my twenties ( probably largely due to the fact that people associate ADD with Hyperactivity! )

Apparently NYtimes published an article couple weeks ago that said all medications were wayyy over prescribed in the US.