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10 handed 1/3 table. This is my 3rd hand at the table after moving here from a broken table. Table seems to be full of recreational players.

Relevant reads:

HJ ($1600): Big white guy wearing a hat. Probably in his 30s. When I sat down he showed down J5o. No idea how he got to the river, I just know he wasn't in a blind. Others have commented that he's running like God.

Hero ($800): 38 year old white guy wearing a hat. I did raise to $21 in the SB the previous hand and check/folded after 4 people saw the flop.

Preflop: UTG limps, folded to HJ who limps, folded to Hero who raises to $18 with K J, SB folds, BB calls, everyone calls.

Flop ($73): K J 2
BB checks, UTG checks, HJ donks $300, Hero...?

He description of HJ is awesome

To be honest seems like this guy really loose pre. Such a crazy overbet on this flop, I would fold because I am a pussy. If we are behind we are f*cked here. Often large bets are bare Ad or QJ with one diamond which does fine against us. If he flopped a flush we are no good.

I would call and see what he does on the turn. I don't know if raising or calling is best.

H I would fold because I am a pussy. If we are behind we are f*cked here. Often large bets are bare Ad or QJ with one diamond which does fine against us. If he flopped a flush we are no good.

+1

In my experience, this is generally a hand like 8 4 that wants to take the pot down and is terrified of another diamond coming, but never releasing the hand. A lot of live poker can be hours of agonizingly slow action waiting for someone to donk off 500 bbs with a baby flush when you have the nutterbutters.

I would call and see what he does on the turn. I don't know if raising or calling is best.

Calling off half your stack in the hopes of being able to figure out what to do on the turn seems like a really bad plan. If his overbet were $100 instead of $300, you could argue for this approach (you'd also have better implied odds for when you spike your four outer on the turn).

Villain's ridiculously large overbet has put you to a decision point for your stack right now. Given how live fish play, I'd say fold without a specific read of villain. Needless to say to the OP, but you should have been (and probably were) watching him closely as the session went on. Since he plays so many hands, you can usually have a fairly comprehensive idea what he is up to within 30-60 minutes. (I'd say there's a 5-10% chance that the guy was just crazily overbetting such a wide range that shoving would be the correct play, but most likely he's protecting a better hand than you, with a small but nonzero chance he is "protecting" a worse hand like A K or A A that he played like a donkey.)

OP: What did you do in the hand? Would you have played the hand differently if you had KK or JJ?

Presuming you have them covered, readless I'm definitely folding here and feeling great about it.

OP: What did you do in the hand? Would you have played the hand differently if you had KK or JJ?

I agree that it was a shove or fold spot. I tanked for a while and basically concluded I was ahead (but not way ahead) maybe 25% on the time and quite a bit behind the rest and folded. Another thing I factored into my decision is that this guy seemed to be pretty loose and had a pretty big stack. Since I had a stack that could put a dent into his stack I decided to fold and wait for a better spot. Villain did flash his cards, but I won't give away what he had in case anyone else wants to chime in.

Would I have played the hand differently if I had KK/JJ? I am ahead of 22 now (which I did think there was a small chance of him having) and I have a little more equity against a flopped flush. Probably 50/50 whether or not I would have shoved. I'm not sure.

think sweetjazz called his hand

I'd fold and and turn into the ffffffuuuuuuu guy when he shows K2o.

I'd fold and and turn into the ffffffuuuuuuu guy when he shows K2o.

lol yes

when he flashes K2 you say "phew, I had red queens."

Results:

I folded and he showed K 9

I don't hate the fold and very much like the way you thought through his range.

Just make mental note on villain and stack later.

There is no shame in switching tables if you're not comfortable playing deep versus an unknown who may be maniacal, too. We play for profit, not pride.