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chofish

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First time poster, I have a quick question regarding a hand I played today at a local casino.

I am sitting in the cutoff with $120 in a $1/$2 casino game 9-handed. I have Q Heart Q Spade. Everyone limps to me and I raise $15. Button calls, BB calls, 2 other callers.

Flop: 2 Spade 6 Club 7 Diamond

Checks around to me and I bet $35. Button folds, BB calls, 2 others fold.

Turn: 3 Heart

BB checks, I check

River: 3 Spade

BB checks, I bet $55, BB all-in.

BB had his hand covering his mouth for the hand, and when the river hit he did a slight nod 'no', so I assumed it was subconscious which factored in my decision to bet. I only had $15 behind, but I folded anyways.

I have two questions.

1. Would you have folded or called the last $15?

2. How would you have played the hand?


Thanks

Posted 10 months ago

inavacuum

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Rebuy to 100bb+ to begin with. Bet the turn.

Posted 10 months ago

chofish

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So would you have just called the all-in?

Posted 10 months ago

pokergarden

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The pots 95-ish on the turn and you have 70 behind how do you not just shove the turn on this board?

Why do you leave 15 behind when you bet the river?

Why don't you call the raise? He could easily just decide his top pair, overpair, or two pair might be good and decide to put you in the rest of your money. You're getting more than 10 to 1 meaning you can be wrong almost every time and still make a profit in this spot.

I suggest you put $50 online and grind some micro stakes until you learn some more of the basics about poker. learning the game playing 1/2 is going to be hugely expensive.

Posted 10 months ago

yakes

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I would have bet more on the flop and would have gone all in on the turn
the pot on the flop is $75 and you have $105 behind for an SPR of 1.4
I just don't think I could ever get away from an overpair in this situation ever
even if I bet less on the flop my intentions would be to never fold

Posted 10 months ago

Tech9ines

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posting here is the first step, pocket queens aren't invincible but this is an easy call.....

listen to 'inavacuum' his point is the most relevant here....
also this point by 'pokergarden' may be your second step to answering your questions
[quote] I suggest you put $50 online and grind some micro stakes until you learn some more of the basics about poker. learning the game playing 1/2 is going to be hugely expensive.[quote/]

my advice would be to watch some videos here on DC, 'Haj School' and 'The Mathematics of NL hold em' by Wilt on Tilt were my first videos and they teach you some of the most important fundamentals you need to answer your question about this hand!!!

Welcome to DC Smile

Posted 10 months ago

Tech9ines

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i dont think ive ever seen anybody fold a pair for $15 for a pot of around $235........

Posted 10 months ago

Tech9ines

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ThierryHenry

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Preflop I would have made it at least $18 and maybe a little more if I thought someone would call a larger amount. Generally if I'm raising I make it 4bb+1bb/limper.

The flop bet on $35 into ~$50 is good.

On the turn you have $70 and the pot is $120. The 3Heart is pretty much a total brick. Just shove. You're going to get called by so many hands that you beat.

The river is a disaster. Betting almost 90% of your starting stack with an overpair and then folding the overpair on one of the safest boards imaginable on the river getting 15-1 is lighting money on fire.

You'd probably be doing yourself a favor in just ignoring perceived tells for now. I'm not saying they're not useful, but you really have to know what you're looking. And when they are used they should be used to help make a close decision. Tells are generally very unreliable. Focus more on the basics.

Posted 10 months ago

sweetjazz3

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When you have 60 bbs in live NLHE and a premium hand (big pair, big broadway cards), your goal is to raise preflop to set up your stack for a turn shove if you flop TPGK or an overpair. You get sooooo much value from people calling it off with worse hands.

I'd bet more on the flop -- probably $40 or $45, because you'll get the same callers peeling. If you had more behind (say 80 bbs), I'd definitely bet on the bigger side to set up a reasonably sized turn shove. You absolutely have to shove this turn and hope to get called by worse (straight draws, top pairs, smaller overpairs, random bajunkajunk).

Posted 10 months ago

spewtastic

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Ironically, I played a hand last night with QQ. I started with about 80bb and villain had me covered.

I raised pre, villain called. I bet flop, villain called. On turn, I was able to get all my chips in, but kept $3 behind. Villain calls.

On the river, I bet my last $3 (pot is approx $320 at this point) and villain folds.

Posted 10 months ago

kerwinty

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Ironically, I played a hand last night with QQ. I started with about 80bb and villain had me covered.

I raised pre, villain called. I bet flop, villain called. On turn, I was able to get all my chips in, but kept $3 behind. Villain calls.

On the river, I bet my last $3 (pot is approx $320 at this point) and villain folds.


wtf and where is this game? In your hand OP, you have to call river with QQ there with those odds.

Posted 10 months ago

Tech9ines

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wow!! obvi has a brain that doesnt work to well

Posted 10 months ago

spewtastic

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Board was something like Qs Th 7s Js Qd (yeah, I flopped top set and rivered quads).

So, the board is paired, is three to a straight, and is three flushed.

When villain folds to my $3 river bet I laughed and looked over and said "you've got to be kidding." He shrugged and said "I have 8 high."

Posted 10 months ago




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