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I can't even stove this.
I tried to put in 10/10, gave 4 guys any pair, any suited, any broadway, the other 4 randoms.
stove spits out nonsense symbols, and wants to explode..

also this is hilarious.

I would normally try and take 1 stab here and check back the turn unimproved re evaluate the board texture on the river? I'm not saying this play is superior by any means but there is 135 in there.

I agree that the dead money is enticing. Unfortunately, you plan revolves around fold equity that in all likelihood doesn't exist. And cbetting here, as was stated before, is going to cost you like ~$70 or something. When you inevitably get called and shut down on the turn, then you've essentially just wasted that $70. Overall, there's simply too great a chance that someone a) made a strong hand or b) made a hand that they are going to try to get to showdown with such as Qx. Barring improvement on the turn, which obviously only happens ~5% of the time, we aren't left with many options when called on the flop. Attempting a 3 barrel to get someone off top pair isn't going to be +EV in a small stakes live game, and as previously stated, hoping 9 people fold the flop to a cbet is a parlay that even Erick Lindgren wouldn't take.

the amount of money in the pot is irrelevant. it's -EV because you won't get everyone to fold enough percentage of the time.

my name is jon and I'm a spewaholic

The first step is acceptance

Ok.
Thank you everyone for all the replies. Sorry if this has been slow in coming.

First of all, this is definitely not a "standard situation" - I don't think I've ever put in a decent size raise and seen everyone at the table call....

Second, if anyone had bet before me, I fold, it's simple. But no one has. Nor have any of them seemed very interested.

Third - the decision I made in the end was based on whatever observation I could manage, and was made in the heat of the moment (I didn't shove, don't worry about that). However, it was a hand that stuck with me for the rest of the session, and then even when I went home, because I just found it so difficult to find a "correct" answer.

So when it's checked to me, here are my thoughts:
*Board is pretty dry. I don't like it being Q-high (QJ is an obvious calling hand in live poker), but if there's ever a board that I'm going to bet, it's this one. If the board is in any way wet, I'm just checking. I don't like to bet, get called by a big stack, and then have to try n figure out on the turn if he is drawing or if he has the Queen.

*Everyone has checked to me, and I can see several player have already hit the check/fold button in their minds. They are just waiting for the opportunity to fold.

*Would I C-bet here with Kings/Aces? Of course I would - but I wouldn't want to have any real action after me, especially from big stacks, as I would be thinking there's a set lurking here every time.

*Are any of the players capable of folding a Queen to me here? Considering my table image (dominating, the only player that seems to be using big bets and winning big pots, and have shown down mostly big hands - AA, KK, and flopped house once), I would say that yes, SOME of the players at this table are folding Queens to a bet here. So I am imagining more fold equity than some of you would probably credit. But it is there.

Oh, and another thought:

*If I bet here, and a big stack calls, I imagine I'll get to showdown with no more betting. If it's a short stack... depending on the player, of course, I imagine they'll be betting the river after I check behind. So minimum I imagine I'll get vs QJ is to see the river for free...which isn't much.

*I'm bet-folding vs any big stack obviously

*I am never EVER EVER EVER trying to triple barrel any player here off a Queen. One bet, see if it gets through, and then hope to showdown cheap.

So, regardless of what I actually did (which I will tell you, very soon), is this the kind of thinking we're all doing when faced with this kind of situation?

So, regardless of what I actually did (which I will tell you, very soon), is this the kind of thinking we're all doing when faced with this kind of situation?

Ohhhhh my, the anticipation!

And no. My thought process would be basically "9 people with wide preflop ranges. Ummmmm check."

Ohhhhh my, the anticipation!

And no. My thought process would be basically "9 people with wide preflop ranges. Ummmmm check."

A 2+2er in disguise...
But would you do the same if you have Aces?
Let's face it, 9 way to the flop and you're PROBABLY losing vs 9 players. Though remember this is a very good board. Not many 2 pair combos here.

A 2+2er in disguise...
But would you do the same if you have Aces?
Let's face it, 9 way to the flop and you're PROBABLY losing vs 9 players. Though remember this is a very good board. Not many 2 pair combos here.

Are you implying you would limp with AA?

In a 9 way limped pot 2 pair is highly more likely than if it were raised. The last few people to limp can have any 2 cards

But would you do the same if you have Aces?

Think about the difference between those two hands and the reasons we bet.

AA KK are hands we'd be c-betting for value. We can get calls From JJ TT and any Qx hands. Not nearly the hand equivalent of TT.

Saying AA = TT here is completely absurd.

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